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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, acme@redhat.com,
	ming.m.lin@intel.com, andi@firstfloor.org,
	robert.richter@amd.com, ravitillo@lbl.gov, will.deacon@arm.com,
	paulus@samba.org, benh@kernel.crashing.org, rth@twiddle.net,
	ralf@linux-mips.org, davem@davemloft.net, lethal@linux-sh.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/12] perf_events: add hook to flush branch_stack on context switch (v2)
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 19:13:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1323368035.17673.20.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABPqkBTJ1M0Hpm-VHXGSSOtLHFQWuuo7AnaJzwEQ9a4WD8YFbw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 10:04 -0800, Stephane Eranian wrote:
> The whole motivation behind the flush_branch_stack is explained in the
> Changelog of the patch. In summary, we need to flush the LBR (regardless
> of TOS) because in system-wide we need to be able to associate the content
> of the LBR with a specific task. Given that the HW does not capture the PID
> in the LBR buffer, the kernel has to intervene. 

That's not regardless of the TOS. If the TOS was a full u64 you wouldn't
need the TID (which would be good, since the hardware has no such
concept).

> Why don't we have this already?
> Because we are capturing at all priv levels. But with this patchset, it becomes
> possible to filter taken branches based on priv levels. Thus, if you only sample
> at the user level and run in system-wide mode, it is more likely you could end
> up with branches belonging to two different tasks in the LBR buffer. But you'd
> have no way of determining this just by looking at the content of the buffer.
> So instead, we need to flush the LBR on context switch to associate a PID
> with them.

Yeah, I get that.

> Because this is an expensive operation, we want to do this only when we
> sample on LBR. That's what the ctx->nr_branch_stack is about. We could
> refine that some more by checking for system-wide events with only
> user priv level on the branch stack. But I did not do that yet.
> 
> Does this make more sense now? 

It already did. The only thing I wanted to do was get rid of that method
check. Initially I overlooked the fact that its optional, even if you
support the branch stack. My reply from today argued for it, since
installing a dummy method would still have the needless ctx_lock &&
pmu_disable overhead.



  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-08 18:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-14 12:37 [PATCH 00/12] perf_events: add support for sampling taken branches (v2) Stephane Eranian
2011-10-14 12:37 ` [PATCH 01/12] perf_events: add generic taken branch sampling support (v2) Stephane Eranian
2011-12-05 21:06   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-06 19:42     ` Stephane Eranian
2011-12-05 22:14   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-06 19:27     ` Stephane Eranian
2011-10-14 12:37 ` [PATCH 02/12] perf_events: add Intel LBR MSR definitions (v2) Stephane Eranian
2011-10-14 12:37 ` [PATCH 03/12] perf_events: add Intel X86 LBR sharing logic (v2) Stephane Eranian
2011-10-14 12:37 ` [PATCH 04/12] perf_events: sync branch stack sampling with X86 precise_sampling (v2) Stephane Eranian
2011-10-14 12:37 ` [PATCH 05/12] perf_events: add LBR mappings for PERF_SAMPLE_BRANCH filters (v2) Stephane Eranian
2011-12-05 22:35   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-07  4:22     ` Stephane Eranian
2011-10-14 12:37 ` [PATCH 06/12] perf_events: implement PERF_SAMPLE_BRANCH for Intel X86 (v2) Stephane Eranian
2011-10-14 12:37 ` [PATCH 07/12] perf_events: add LBR software filter support " Stephane Eranian
2011-12-05 22:29   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-14 12:37 ` [PATCH 08/12] perf_events: disable PERF_SAMPLE_BRANCH_* when not supported (v2) Stephane Eranian
2011-10-14 12:37 ` [PATCH 09/12] perf_events: add hook to flush branch_stack on context switch (v2) Stephane Eranian
2011-12-05 21:10   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-05 21:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-07 18:25     ` Stephane Eranian
2011-12-08 10:49       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-08 18:04         ` Stephane Eranian
2011-12-08 18:13           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2011-12-08 22:06             ` Stephane Eranian
2011-12-09  9:00               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-14 12:37 ` [PATCH 10/12] perf: add code to support PERF_SAMPLE_BRANCH_STACK (v2) Stephane Eranian
2011-10-14 12:37 ` [PATCH 11/12] perf: add support for sampling taken branch to perf record (v2) Stephane Eranian
2011-10-14 12:37 ` [PATCH 12/12] perf: add support for taken branch sampling to perf report (v2) Stephane Eranian
2011-12-04 20:11 ` [PATCH 00/12] perf_events: add support for sampling taken branches (v2) Stephane Eranian
2011-12-05 15:27   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-05 22:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-06  9:49   ` Will Deacon
2011-12-06 11:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-06 19:14       ` Stephane Eranian
2011-12-06 19:20         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-06 19:22           ` Stephane Eranian

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