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From: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 0/3] kvm tool: Serial emulation overhaul
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:40:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1323711623.3269.10.camel@lappy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111212111222.GA21121@elte.hu>

On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 12:12 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > 50k cycles for every single byte is pretty much as good as it 
> > will get with serial console. See slide #5 in Marcelo's KVM 
> > Forum 2010 presentation[1] where he timed a heavyweight exit 
> > to about 40k cycles.
> 
> > [1]
> > http://www.linux-kvm.org/wiki/images/e/ea/2010-forum-mtosatti_walkthrough_entry_exit.pdf
> 
> But what we do here is a PIO exit. That, according to Marcelo's 
> measurements, is about 10K cycles, back to back. [*]
> 
> So where does the extra overhead come from?
> 
> We shouldn't care that there's virtio-console - the goal of 
> tools/kvm it speed everything up as much as possible, so we 
> should not jump to the next IO abstraction unless we know where 
> every cycle was spent with simpler IO models ...
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 	Ingo
> 
> [*] Also, those 10K cycles include some significant Qemu 
>     overhead - a couple of thousand cycles - that should be much 
>     lower in the tools/kvm case.

No, everything on slide 5 is part of a PIO exit. Starting from 'out' and
up to until it's back to the guest. A total of over 40k cycles.

KVM tools does have less overhead than qemu regarding PIO exits, but
even if you take those completely out of the equation we're still pretty
close to 40k cycles.

-- 

Sasha.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-12-12 17:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-10 13:27 [patch 0/3] kvm tool: Serial emulation overhaul Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-10 13:27 ` [patch 1/3] kvm tool: serial: Cleanup coding style Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-10 13:27 ` [patch 2/3] kvm tool: serial: Simplify switch cases Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-10 13:27 ` [patch 3/3] kvm tool: serial: Fix interrupt handling Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-10 15:17 ` [patch 0/3] kvm tool: Serial emulation overhaul Pekka Enberg
2011-12-10 20:51   ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-11  8:15     ` Pekka Enberg
2011-12-11 10:30       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-11 10:46         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-11 14:04         ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-11 15:53           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-12  5:30             ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-12 11:12               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-12 11:20                 ` Alan Cox
2011-12-12 17:20                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-12 18:16                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-12 18:16                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-12 21:36                     ` Alan Cox
2011-12-13 10:32                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-12 11:23                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-12 17:40                 ` Sasha Levin [this message]
2011-12-12 17:45                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-12  9:42             ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-12 11:19             ` Pekka Enberg
2011-12-12 17:20               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-12 18:40                 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-12-12 19:14                   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-12-12 19:21                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-13  0:59                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-13  7:03                       ` Pekka Enberg
2011-12-13 11:05                         ` Alan Cox
2011-12-13 10:58                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-13 13:52                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-13 14:23                           ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-13 14:30                             ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-13 14:51                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-13 14:58                               ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-12 21:03                   ` James Courtier-Dutton
2011-12-12 18:19               ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-12 18:31                 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-12-13 10:33                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-12 10:27           ` Alan Cox
2011-12-12 10:59             ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-12 11:02               ` Alan Cox
2011-12-12 18:21                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-12 17:21               ` Ingo Molnar

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