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From: Colin Walters <walters@verbum.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, morgan@kernel.org, luto@mit.edu,
	kzak@redhat.com, Steve Grubb <sgrubb@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: chroot(2) and bind mounts as non-root
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:23:30 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1324416210.25566.35.camel@lenny> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1ehw1mlcf.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>

On Sun, 2011-12-18 at 16:55 -0800, Eric W. Biederman wrote:

> I expect by the time this makes it to "out of the box" experiences on
> enterprise distros, useradd and friends will be giving out 1000 or so uids
> to new accounts.

Hmm...how would that work?  Would it be something that would happen at
PAM time, like a module that looks up some file in /etc and says "OK
this uid gets this range" and uploads that to the kernel? 

This whole idea of a normal uid getting *other* slave uids is cool but
scary at the same time.  So much infrastructure in what I think of as
"General Purpose Linux"[1] is built up around a uid - resource
restrictions and authentication for example.

I guess as long as we're sure that all cases where a "uid" crosses a
user namespace (say socket credentials) and appears as the right thing,
it may be secure.

> I think the user namespace will do what you need. Certainly it appears
> that everything in your example binary will be allowed by the time it is
> done.

That's cool, I will keep an eye on what you guys are doing.  Looks like
the containers list on linuxfoundation.org is the right one to follow?

[1] The code that's shared between RHEL and Debian roughly between the
kernel and GNOME, discarding the pointless "packaging" differences



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-12-20 21:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-07 17:54 chroot(2) and bind mounts as non-root Colin Walters
2011-12-07 19:36 ` John Stoffel
2011-12-08 16:10   ` Colin Walters
2011-12-08 18:14     ` John Stoffel
2011-12-08 18:26       ` Colin Walters
2011-12-09  0:49         ` Sven-Haegar Koch
2011-12-09 14:55         ` John Stoffel
2011-12-09 15:06           ` Colin Walters
2011-12-08 17:04   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-08 17:15     ` Colin Walters
2011-12-07 19:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
2011-12-08 16:58   ` Colin Walters
2011-12-07 20:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-12-07 20:54   ` Alan Cox
2011-12-15 18:55     ` Andrew G. Morgan
2011-12-16 15:44       ` Colin Walters
2011-12-18  1:22         ` Andrew G. Morgan
2011-12-18 15:19           ` Colin Walters
2011-12-10  5:29 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-12-12 16:41   ` Colin Walters
2011-12-12 23:11     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-12-15 20:56       ` Colin Walters
2011-12-16  6:14         ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-12-18 16:01           ` Colin Walters
2011-12-19  0:55             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-12-19  4:06               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-12-19  9:22                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-12-20 16:49                   ` Colin Walters
2011-12-20 21:23               ` Colin Walters [this message]
2011-12-21 18:15           ` Steve Grubb
2012-01-03 23:13             ` Eric W. Biederman

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