From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751152Ab2AOMIW (ORCPT ); Sun, 15 Jan 2012 07:08:22 -0500 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.23]:46877 "HELO mailout-de.gmx.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1750761Ab2AOMIV (ORCPT ); Sun, 15 Jan 2012 07:08:21 -0500 X-Authenticated: #14349625 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/yUGweBBbyaCrGLUY7pRWJvgZQS7nfrn3Q0NUDc9 Z0et0LHj0FLCVL Subject: Re: Chronic resource starvation. From: Mike Galbraith To: Mike Mestnik Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <4F11E3B8.6090007@mikemestnik.net> References: <4F10F3AE.3030801@mikemestnik.net> <4F11E3B8.6090007@mikemestnik.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 13:08:15 +0100 Message-ID: <1326629295.6352.14.camel@marge.simson.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 14:21 -0600, Mike Mestnik wrote: > On 01/13/12 21:17, Mike Mestnik wrote: > > I've dealt with applications taking extended time off for a number of > > years. I typically attribute it to applications being overly zealous > > about eating memory as most every application tends to do these days. I > > had always figured that there a likely plenty of ppl complaining and I > > didn't want to get the boiler plat answer that resources are cheap. > > > > I refuse to buy into the idea that Z computers can get an additional Y > > resource to run application X, when instead application X could be > > engineered once and for all. This ideology is not sustainable and > > eventually will crash upon it's self. I call this Z * Y < X. The > > application source becomes the single location where every computers > > resources can be increased at the cost of much less then to adjust the > > running environment of every location that the code may run. > > > > Here is a 84MB video that demonstrates the issue. > > http://j.mp/wavbCO > > http://bitly.com/wavbCO+ > I'm glad to see a number of you have clicked on this link. > > Does this behavior look normal or is it just my system? If it is normal > how difficult would it be to make corrections and would those > corrections likely be kernel or application related? That "Backup complete" makes me suspect a classic case of IO-itis. If bits of your GUI were pushed out or ram (or weren't previously used), and live on a disk you're beating hell out of, you get to experience horrid interactivity while those missing bits are being retrieved. -Mike