From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
Lennart Poettering <lennart@poettering.net>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFD] cgroup: about multiple hierarchies
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:41:34 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1329990094.24994.64.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120222165714.GC4128@redhat.com>
On Wed, 2012-02-22 at 11:57 -0500, Vivek Goyal wrote:
>
> Again, it does not mean I am advocating flat hiearchy. I am just wondering
> in case of fully nested hierarchies (task at same level as groups), how
> does one explain it to a layman user who understands things in terms of
> % of resources.
If your complete control is % based then I would assume its a % of a %.
Simple enough.
If its bandwidth based then simply don't allow a child to consume more
bandwidth than its parent, also simple.
If your layman isn't capable of grokking that, he should stay the f*ck
away from it.
I'm really thinking that if we stick with the full hierarchical thing we
should mandate all controllers be fully hierarchical. And yes that
sucks, but so be it.
The scheduler thing tries to be completely hierarchical and yes it will
run into the ground if you push it hard enough simply because we're
hitting the limits of fixed point arithmetic, fractions can only go so
far, so the deeper you nest the crappier things get -- not that any
userspace cares about this.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-02-23 9:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-02-21 21:19 [RFD] cgroup: about multiple hierarchies Tejun Heo
2012-02-21 21:21 ` Tejun Heo
2012-02-22 13:34 ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-23 7:45 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2012-02-23 17:29 ` Tejun Heo
2012-02-23 18:47 ` Serge Hallyn
2012-02-26 4:59 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-22 13:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-22 13:37 ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-22 18:01 ` Tejun Heo
2012-02-23 7:39 ` Li Zefan
2012-02-22 15:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-22 18:22 ` Tejun Heo
2012-02-27 17:46 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-22 16:38 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-02-22 16:57 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-02-22 18:43 ` Tejun Heo
2012-02-23 9:41 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2012-02-23 14:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-01 17:19 ` Michal Schmidt
2012-03-01 18:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-02 11:08 ` Michal Schmidt
2012-03-02 11:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-02 11:28 ` Michal Schmidt
2012-03-02 11:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-01 20:26 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-03-01 21:02 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-03-01 22:04 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-03-01 22:38 ` C Anthony Risinger
2012-03-02 10:51 ` Michal Schmidt
2012-03-02 11:52 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-03-05 12:43 ` Lennart Poettering
2012-03-05 15:47 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-03-05 19:58 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-03-02 2:43 ` Kay Sievers
2012-03-02 10:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-02 11:16 ` Michal Schmidt
2012-03-02 11:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-23 21:38 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-02-23 22:34 ` Tejun Heo
2012-02-28 21:16 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-02-28 21:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-28 21:35 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-02-28 21:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-28 21:54 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-02-28 22:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-28 22:31 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-02-28 21:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-28 22:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-02-24 11:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-22 18:33 ` Tejun Heo
2012-02-23 19:41 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-02-23 22:38 ` Tejun Heo
2012-02-23 7:59 ` Li Zefan
2012-02-23 20:32 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-02-23 8:22 ` Li Zefan
2012-02-23 17:33 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <m162em2efy.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>
2012-03-03 14:26 ` Serge Hallyn
2012-03-05 11:37 ` Lennart Poettering
2012-03-12 22:10 ` Tejun Heo
2012-03-12 22:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-12 22:28 ` Tejun Heo
2012-03-12 22:31 ` Lennart Poettering
2012-03-12 23:00 ` Tejun Heo
2012-03-12 23:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-12 23:09 ` Tejun Heo
2012-03-12 23:43 ` Lennart Poettering
2012-03-12 22:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-12 22:39 ` Tejun Heo
2012-03-12 22:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-12 23:04 ` Tejun Heo
2012-03-13 14:10 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-03-13 16:11 ` C Anthony Risinger
2012-03-13 16:30 ` C Anthony Risinger
2012-03-13 17:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-13 17:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-13 10:11 ` Glauber Costa
2012-03-13 14:03 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-03-13 15:59 ` Tejun Heo
2012-03-16 23:14 ` James Bottomley
2012-03-12 22:37 ` Serge Hallyn
2012-03-12 22:55 ` Tejun Heo
2012-03-13 13:49 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-03-13 16:02 ` Tejun Heo
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