From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755578Ab2CASD0 (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:03:26 -0500 Received: from merlin.infradead.org ([205.233.59.134]:55670 "EHLO merlin.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751069Ab2CASDZ convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:03:25 -0500 Message-ID: <1330624986.11248.209.camel@twins> Subject: Re: [RFD] cgroup: about multiple hierarchies From: Peter Zijlstra To: Michal Schmidt Cc: Vivek Goyal , Tejun Heo , Li Zefan , containers@lists.linux-foundation.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , Kay Sievers , Lennart Poettering , Frederic Weisbecker , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 19:03:06 +0100 In-Reply-To: <4F4FAF89.3090706@redhat.com> References: <20120221211938.GE12236@google.com> <20120222163858.GB4128@redhat.com> <20120222165714.GC4128@redhat.com> <1329990094.24994.64.camel@twins> <1330006399.11248.20.camel@twins> <4F4FAF89.3090706@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.2- Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 2012-03-01 at 18:19 +0100, Michal Schmidt wrote: > Dne 23.2.2012 15:13, Peter Zijlstra napsal: > > My utter disregard for cgroups comes from having to actually implement a > > controller for them, its a frigging nightmare. The systemd retards > > mandating all this nonsense for booting a machine is completely bonghit > > inspired and hasn't made me feel any better about it. > > systemd requires only CONFIG_CGROUPS=y. It does not need any controllers. And that makes it better how? > The insults are entirely unnecessary. I think not, booting a machine should depend on the smallest possible subset of features. Doing anything else is completely bonkers. Luckily it looks like the Debian guys made the right decision -- albeit for the wrong reasons.