From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754278Ab2DWPJO (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Apr 2012 11:09:14 -0400 Received: from merlin.infradead.org ([205.233.59.134]:48573 "EHLO merlin.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753557Ab2DWPJN convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Apr 2012 11:09:13 -0400 Message-ID: <1335193719.28150.171.camel@twins> Subject: Re: Our failure on tracing tools unification (Was: Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/15] tools: Unify perf and trace-cmd trace event format parsing v2) From: Peter Zijlstra To: Frederic Weisbecker Cc: LKML , Steven Rostedt , Ingo Molnar , Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo , Thomas Gleixner , Borislav Petkov , Namhyung Kim , Jiri Olsa , Arun Sharma , Michael Rubin , David Sharp , Vaibhav Nagarnaik , Julia Lawall , Tom Zanussi Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 17:08:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20120423144743.GB29985@somewhere> References: <1333666086-6517-1-git-send-email-fweisbec@gmail.com> <20120423144743.GB29985@somewhere> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.2- Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 2012-04-23 at 16:47 +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote: > Ingo doesn't seem to want this library outside perf in order to avoid > the fragmentation of the efforts on tracing tools. I really don't see the point.. parsing /debug/tracing/events/*/format gunk really is separate, furthermore things like powertop et al already are separate projects and really need this lib. I mean, who gives a bother where all that crap lives, if its in the kernel tree its all close enough to keep an eye on.. its not like kernel/events/ and kernel/trace/ are the same directory. Ingo, please could you lighten up and let people get stuff done? Merging the two implementations, wherever the result lives, is a better situation that two dis-joint implementations. So either let Frederic work or do it yourself but don't hand-wave and road-block stuff.