From: Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: huang ying <huang.ying.caritas@gmail.com>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
ming.m.lin@intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, Zheng Yan <zheng.z.yan@intel.com>,
Lan Tianyu <tianyu.lan@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 2/5] PM, Add sysfs file power_off to control device power off policy
Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 14:46:40 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1336546000.6190.219.camel@yhuang-dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201205082334.58157.rjw@sisk.pl>
On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 23:34 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 08, 2012, Huang Ying wrote:
> > On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 22:53 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Saturday, May 05, 2012, huang ying wrote:
> > > > On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl> wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, May 04, 2012, Huang Ying wrote:
> > > > >> From: Lan Tianyu <tianyu.lan@intel.com>
> [...]
> > > I think we may add helpers for exporting/unexporting power_off_allowed
> > > like for the PM QoS latency attribute. Then, whoever wants to support
> > > power_off_allowed and use it will export it through that helper.
> >
> > That sounds good!
> >
> > > Still, I'm afraid we're trying to special case something that really ins't
> > > a special case. Namely, we may want to restrict devices from using some
> > > other low-power states as well, not only power off (eg. we may want to
> > > prevent devices' clocks from being stopped).
> >
> > One step towards generalization is to provide a way for user to specify
> > lowest power state allowed. For example, for PCI devices, they can
> > specify D1, D2, D3hot or D3cold. But it is hard to generalize a set of
> > low power states for all kind of devices. Maybe we should keep this
> > user space interface bus specific?
>
> I came to the same conclusion. :-)
>
> Besides, we already have the no_d1d2 and d1_support, d2_support flags
> in struct pci_dev. We can simply add no_d3_cold in analogy and add a similar
> thing for ATA to cover the ZPODD case.
>
> I would keep those things bus-type-specific and platform-specific.
But power-off sate seems like the only low power state that can be
shared between buses. And keep power_must_be_on in dev_pm_info seems
good for power domain implementation. Because one power domain may
contain devices comes from different buses.
Best Regards,
Huang Ying
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-09 6:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-04 8:13 [RFC v2 0/5] PCIe, Add PCIe runtime D3cold support Huang Ying
2012-05-04 8:13 ` [RFC v2 1/5] PM, Runtime, Add power_must_be_on flag Huang Ying
2012-05-04 19:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-05 5:15 ` huang ying
2012-05-07 20:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-04 19:50 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-05-05 5:59 ` huang ying
2012-05-07 20:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-04 8:13 ` [RFC v2 2/5] PM, Add sysfs file power_off to control device power off policy Huang Ying
2012-05-04 19:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-05 6:29 ` huang ying
2012-05-07 20:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-08 1:44 ` Huang Ying
2012-05-08 21:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-09 6:46 ` Huang Ying [this message]
2012-05-09 10:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-10 0:55 ` Huang Ying
2012-05-10 14:48 ` Alan Stern
2012-05-10 19:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-04 19:50 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-05-04 21:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-05 6:36 ` huang ying
2012-05-04 8:13 ` [RFC v2 3/5] PCIe, Add runtime PM support to PCIe port Huang Ying
2012-05-04 19:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-05 6:46 ` huang ying
2012-05-07 21:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-11 7:57 ` Huang Ying
2012-05-11 18:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-04 19:50 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-05-04 20:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-05 6:54 ` huang ying
2012-05-07 21:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-05 6:53 ` huang ying
2012-05-04 8:13 ` [RFC v2 4/5] ACPI, PM, Specify lowest allowed state for device sleep state Huang Ying
2012-05-04 20:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-05 7:25 ` huang ying
2012-05-07 21:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-08 1:49 ` Huang Ying
2012-05-04 8:13 ` [RFC v2 5/5] PCIe, Add PCIe runtime D3cold support Huang Ying
2012-05-04 19:51 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-05-05 7:34 ` huang ying
2012-05-04 20:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-05 8:08 ` huang ying
2012-05-07 21:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-08 2:22 ` Huang Ying
2012-05-08 8:34 ` Huang Ying
2012-05-10 19:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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