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From: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Kay Sievers <kay@vrfy.org>, "Ted Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartmann <greg@kroah.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND 1/3] printk: convert byte-buffer to variable-length record buffer
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 17:13:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1336695199.29763.28.camel@joe2Laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFygHfYd3O5-sBg32_Vcn6GOm7irr2R8jW6QVPuepXTeWw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 14:58 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think it's a distinction without a difference for,
> > as fas as I know, that's a case that doesn't exist
> > in the current kernel.
> 
> So? Even if we hadn't had this bug before (we have),

True.  I've fixed the ones you've introduced when you
changed printk semantics in the past.

> your argument is utter crap.

What happened to the pragmatic Linus Torvalds?
Did the dogmatic one replace him again temporarily?

> Even if we weren't to have that patter right *now*, that
> doesn't mean that it cannot happen.

Not what I said.

> Your grep is also not at all exhaustive.

I believe I know the printk subsystem and its uses
as well as anyone.  I don't think there is a case
today.

> We do need an escape model.

Or an agreement to not to emit "<[0-7cd]>"
as the first 3 bytes after a newline or as
the start of a new printk.  It could just
as easily be an escape is a required leading
non "<" character.

I think that's not onerous.

> The current KERN_CONT does that. Stop
> arguing for crap.

Correctness in all cases can be a good thing.
Simplicity may be better because complexity
is reduced.

cheers, Joe


  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-11  0:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-03  0:29 [PATCH RESEND 1/3] printk: convert byte-buffer to variable-length record buffer Kay Sievers
2012-05-03 19:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-05-03 19:54   ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-03 19:55     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-05-03 19:56   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-03 20:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-05-03 20:09       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-03 20:11         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-05-03 20:18           ` Greg Kroah-Hartmann
2012-05-08  8:48 ` Sasha Levin
2012-05-08 11:14   ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-08 13:33     ` Sasha Levin
2012-05-08 14:29       ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-08 15:33         ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-08 15:57           ` Sasha Levin
2012-05-08 16:27             ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-08 22:57               ` Greg Kroah-Hartmann
2012-05-09  3:52     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-09  4:06       ` Joe Perches
2012-05-09  4:11       ` Sasha Levin
2012-05-09  4:27         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-09  4:36           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-09  7:07             ` Ingo Molnar
2012-05-09 13:21               ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-09 13:29               ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-10  0:54                 ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-10  1:18                   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-10  2:32                     ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-10  2:46                       ` Joe Perches
2012-05-10 16:39                     ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-10 16:47                       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-10 18:49                         ` Tony Luck
2012-05-10 19:09                         ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-10 20:14                           ` Ted Ts'o
2012-05-10 20:37                             ` Joe Perches
2012-05-10 20:39                               ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-10 20:46                                 ` Joe Perches
2012-05-10 20:52                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-10 21:11                                     ` Joe Perches
2012-05-10 21:15                                       ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-10 21:58                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-11  0:13                                         ` Joe Perches [this message]
2012-05-11  0:38                                     ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-11  1:23                                       ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-14 18:46                                         ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-10 21:01                                   ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-10 20:38                             ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-09  9:38       ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-09 13:50         ` Joe Perches
2012-05-09 14:37           ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-09 23:02             ` Yinghai Lu
2012-05-09 23:06               ` Greg Kroah-Hartmann
2012-05-10  2:30                 ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-11 10:35                   ` Sasha Levin
2012-05-11 15:19                     ` Greg KH
2012-05-11 15:22                       ` Sasha Levin
2012-05-11 15:35                       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-11 15:40                         ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-11 15:47                           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-11 19:51                             ` Mark Lord
2012-05-11 20:02                               ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-12 18:04                                 ` Mark Lord
2012-05-12  7:43                             ` Sasha Levin
2012-05-12 18:35                               ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-13 11:08                                 ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-13 13:22                                 ` Mark Lord
2012-05-13 18:01                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-13 22:19                                     ` Mark Lord
2012-05-14 16:40                                   ` valdis.kletnieks
2012-05-17  3:44                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-13 21:48                               ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-13 21:30                     ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-26 11:11 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-27 14:23   ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-29 16:07     ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-29 16:14       ` Joe Perches
2012-05-29 16:34         ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-29 16:51           ` Joe Perches
2012-05-29 17:11       ` Luck, Tony
2012-05-29 17:22         ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-30 11:29           ` Kay Sievers
2012-06-06  6:33       ` Greg Kroah-Hartmann
2012-06-15  0:04       ` Greg KH
2012-06-15  1:31         ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-15 12:07         ` Kay Sievers
2012-06-15 12:23           ` Ingo Molnar
2012-06-15 21:53             ` Greg KH
2012-06-15 12:23           ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-15 20:54           ` Tony Luck
2012-11-28 13:33 ` Michael Kerrisk
2012-11-28 16:22   ` Kay Sievers
2012-11-28 16:37     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-28 16:49       ` Kay Sievers
2012-11-28 17:51         ` Kay Sievers
2012-11-29 13:18           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-11-29 13:28             ` Kay Sievers
2012-11-29 13:37               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-11-29 14:08                 ` Kay Sievers
2012-11-29 14:18                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-11-29 14:31                     ` Kay Sievers

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