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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>, acme <acme@ghostprotocols.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] ftrace: Synchronize variable setting with breakpoints
Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 22:26:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1338495969.28384.119.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1338495006.13348.418.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com>

On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 16:10 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 15:55 -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> 
> > > Also, why did Mathieu insist on keeping that kmap()?
> > 
> > Not sure about the entire context here, but the goal of using kmap() is
> > to allow modification of text in configurations where the kernel text
> > is read-only: the kmap does a temporary shadow RW mapping that allows
> > modification of the text. Presumably that Ftrace's 30k changes are done
> > before the kernel text mapping is set to read-only ? If this is the
> > case, then it is similar to text_poke_early, which don't use the kmap
> > since it happens before kernel text gets write-protected. But text_poke
> > has to deal with RO pages.
> 
> No this is also when ftrace is enabled at runtime. The trick that ftrace
> does is to temporarially  convert the kernel text from ro to rw, and
> then back to ro when done. You can argue that this degrades the security
> of the system, but tracing every function in the kernel does too ;-)
> That's why it's a root only utility.

Right, but when you loose stop-machine you could simply do 30k
kmap_atomic/kunmap_atomic's consecutively since you're not holding
anybody up.

> Hmm, this brings up another question. By default, perf does not allow
> users to profile trace_events correct? IOW, perf does not let
> unprivileged users call text_poke()? I just tried it and got the:
> 
> $ ~/bin/perf record -e sched:sched_switch sleep 1
> Permission error - are you root?
> Consider tweaking /proc/sys/kernel/perf_event_paranoid:
>  -1 - Not paranoid at all
>   0 - Disallow raw tracepoint access for unpriv
>   1 - Disallow cpu events for unpriv
>   2 - Disallow kernel profiling for unpriv

It would, except tools/perf does stupid, its unconditionally adding
PERF_SAMPLE_RAW (even for non-sampling events), which is the bit that
requires privs.


  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-31 20:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-31  1:28 [PATCH 0/5] [GIT PULL] ftrace: Fix bug with function tracing and lockdep Steven Rostedt
2012-05-31  1:28 ` [PATCH 1/5] ftrace: Synchronize variable setting with breakpoints Steven Rostedt
2012-05-31 11:06   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-05-31 14:08     ` Steven Rostedt
2012-05-31 15:16       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2012-05-31 15:29         ` Steven Rostedt
2012-05-31 17:28       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-05-31 18:42         ` Steven Rostedt
2012-05-31 17:40       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-05-31 17:44         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-05-31 17:53         ` Steven Rostedt
2012-05-31 18:03           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-05-31 18:50             ` Steven Rostedt
2012-05-31 19:06               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-05-31 19:55                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-05-31 20:10                   ` Steven Rostedt
2012-05-31 20:26                     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2012-05-31 20:37                       ` Steven Rostedt
2012-05-31 20:40                         ` Steven Rostedt
2012-05-31 20:40                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-05-31 20:49                           ` Steven Rostedt
2012-06-01  4:53                             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2012-06-01 11:37                               ` Steven Rostedt
2012-06-01 12:52                                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2012-06-01  0:45                       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-05-31  1:28 ` [PATCH 2/5] ftrace: Use breakpoint method to update ftrace caller Steven Rostedt
2012-05-31 11:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-05-31 14:19     ` Steven Rostedt
2012-05-31  1:28 ` [PATCH 3/5] x86: Reset the debug_stack update counter Steven Rostedt
2012-05-31 19:19   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-31 19:26     ` Steven Rostedt
2012-05-31  1:28 ` [PATCH 4/5] x86: Allow nesting of the debug stack IDT setting Steven Rostedt
2012-05-31 18:44   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-31 18:58   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-31 19:25     ` Steven Rostedt
2012-05-31 19:27       ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-31 20:00         ` Steven Rostedt
2012-05-31 20:17           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-31 20:35             ` Steven Rostedt
2012-05-31 20:39               ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-31 20:56                 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-05-31 21:09                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-31 21:37                     ` Steven Rostedt
2012-05-31 21:38                       ` Steven Rostedt
2012-06-01  2:30       ` Steven Rostedt
2012-05-31  1:28 ` [PATCH 5/5] ftrace/x86: Do not change stacks in DEBUG when calling lockdep Steven Rostedt
2012-05-31  2:13 ` [PATCH 0/5] (for 3.5)[GIT PULL] ftrace: Fix bug with function tracing and lockdep Steven Rostedt

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