From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Venki Pallipadi <venki@google.com>,
Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Nikunj A Dadhania <nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
Kamalesh Babulal <kamalesh@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Morten Rasmussen <Morten.Rasmussen@arm.com>,
Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/16] sched: normalize tg load contributions against runnable time
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 13:52:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1341575532.7709.47.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1341431285.19870.15.camel@laptop>
On Wed, 2012-07-04 at 21:48 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-06-27 at 19:24 -0700, Paul Turner wrote:
> > Entities of equal weight should receive equitable distribution of cpu time.
> > This is challenging in the case of a task_group's shares as execution may be
> > occurring on multiple cpus simultaneously.
> >
> > To handle this we divide up the shares into weights proportionate with the load
> > on each cfs_rq. This does not however, account for the fact that the sum of
> > the parts may be less than one cpu and so we need to normalize:
> > load(tg) = min(runnable_avg(tg), 1) * tg->shares
> > Where runnable_avg is the aggregate time in which the task_group had runnable
> > children.
>
> I remember we had a bit of a discussion on this last time, I thought you
> were going to convince me this approximation was 'right'.
>
> Care to still do so.. the rationale used should at least live in a
> comment somewhere, otherwise someone will go silly trying to understand
> things later on.
So if we treat the per-cpu utilization u_i as probability, then we're
looking for:
P(\Union_{i=1..n} u_i) :=
\Sum_{k=1..n} (-1)^(k-1) P(\Intersection_{i=1..k} u_i)
Computing this however is far too expensive, what we can do is
approximate by setting u = avg(u_i) and then using:
u_i == u_j for all i,j
and assuming all variables are independent, giving us:
P(A \Intersection B) = P(A)P(B)
This then yields:
P(\Union_{i=1..n} u_i) ~= \Sum_{k=1..n} (-1)^(k-1) (n choose k) u^k
Which unfortunately isn't a series I found a sane solution for, but
numerically (see below) we can see it very quickly approaches 1 when n
>> 1.
Therefore, the chosen approximation of min(1, \Sum_i u_i) is indeed a
sane approximation since for very small u_i and/or small n the sum is
less likely to exceed 1 and for big u_i and/or big n the clip to 1 is
indeed correct.
*phew*
Was this what you meant? :-)
Now all that is left is grok the actual code..
probability_union.bc
---
define f (x) {
if (x <= 1) return (1);
return (f(x-1) * x);
}
define choose (n,k) {
return f(n) / (f(n-k) * f(k));
}
define pu (p,n) {
auto s, k
s = 0;
for (k = 1; k <= n; k++) {
s += (-1)^(k-1) * choose(n,k) * p^k;
}
return s;
}
for (n=2; n<128; n*=2) {
print n, ": "
for (p = 1; p < 11; p++) {
print pu(p/10,n), " "
}
print "\n"
}
quit
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-07-06 11:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-06-28 2:24 [PATCH 00/16] Series short description Paul Turner
2012-06-28 2:24 ` [PATCH 09/16] sched: normalize tg load contributions against runnable time Paul Turner
2012-06-29 7:26 ` Namhyung Kim
2012-07-04 19:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-07-06 11:52 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2012-07-12 1:08 ` Andre Noll
2012-07-12 0:02 ` Paul Turner
2012-07-06 12:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-28 2:24 ` [PATCH 02/16] sched: maintain per-rq runnable averages Paul Turner
2012-06-28 2:24 ` [PATCH 01/16] sched: track the runnable average on a per-task entitiy basis Paul Turner
2012-06-28 6:06 ` Namhyung Kim
2012-07-12 0:14 ` Paul Turner
2012-07-04 15:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-07-12 0:12 ` Paul Turner
2012-06-28 2:24 ` [PATCH 04/16] sched: maintain the load contribution of blocked entities Paul Turner
2012-06-29 1:27 ` Namhyung Kim
2012-06-28 2:24 ` [PATCH 08/16] sched: compute load contribution by a group entity Paul Turner
2012-06-28 2:24 ` [PATCH 05/16] sched: add an rq migration call-back to sched_class Paul Turner
2012-06-29 1:32 ` Namhyung Kim
2012-06-28 2:24 ` [PATCH 03/16] sched: aggregate load contributed by task entities on parenting cfs_rq Paul Turner
2012-06-28 6:33 ` Namhyung Kim
2012-07-04 15:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-07-06 14:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-07-09 9:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-06-28 2:24 ` [PATCH 06/16] sched: account for blocked load waking back up Paul Turner
2012-06-28 2:24 ` [PATCH 07/16] sched: aggregate total task_group load Paul Turner
2012-06-28 2:24 ` [PATCH 13/16] sched: update_cfs_shares at period edge Paul Turner
2012-06-28 2:24 ` [PATCH 14/16] sched: make __update_entity_runnable_avg() fast Paul Turner
2012-07-04 15:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-07-04 17:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-07-09 20:18 ` Benjamin Segall
2012-07-10 10:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-07-12 0:15 ` Paul Turner
2012-07-12 14:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-07-04 16:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-28 2:24 ` [PATCH 11/16] sched: replace update_shares weight distribution with per-entity computation Paul Turner
2012-06-28 2:24 ` [PATCH 16/16] sched: introduce temporary FAIR_GROUP_SCHED dependency for load-tracking Paul Turner
2012-06-28 2:24 ` [PATCH 15/16] sched: implement usage tracking Paul Turner
2012-06-28 2:24 ` [PATCH 12/16] sched: refactor update_shares_cpu() -> update_blocked_avgs() Paul Turner
2012-06-29 7:28 ` Namhyung Kim
2012-07-12 0:03 ` Paul Turner
2012-07-05 11:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-07-12 0:11 ` Paul Turner
2012-07-12 14:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-28 2:24 ` [PATCH 10/16] sched: maintain runnable averages across throttled periods Paul Turner
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-08-23 14:14 [patch 00/16] sched: per-entity load-tracking pjt
2012-08-23 14:14 ` [patch 09/16] sched: normalize tg load contributions against runnable time pjt
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