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From: Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hp.com>
To: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
Cc: shuah.khan@hp.com, "Moore, Robert" <robert.moore@intel.com>,
	lenb@kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bhelgaas@google.com,
	isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com, liuj97@gmail.com,
	srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com, prarit@redhat.com,
	imammedo@redhat.com, vijaymohan.pandarathil@hp.com,
	shuahkhan@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] ACPI: Add acpi_pr_<level>() interfaces
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 09:52:26 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1342799546.3010.296.camel@misato.fc.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1342715687.1988.16.camel@joe2Laptop>

On Thu, 2012-07-19 at 09:34 -0700, Joe Perches wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-07-19 at 10:15 -0600, Shuah Khan wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 18:38 -0600, Toshi Kani wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > This interface is defined in acpi/acpi_bus.h, which is intended for ACPI
> > > drivers which make many ACPI calls to proceed when they are called at
> > > run-time today.  This interface does not change that, and I believe
> > > acpi_get_name() is much faster compared to ACPI method calls these ACPI
> > > drivers make in their normal code path.  The extra work to call
> > > acpi_get_name() is simply a noise in this case (if you try to measure),
> > > and the use of this interface is limited in error paths of such ACPI
> > > drivers.
> > 
> > I understand the scope of the usage of this new interface. I don't think
> > I am able to explain the problem I see with this interface as it gets
> > used more and more from acpi drivers. Let me try another way.
> > 
> > If understand the this patch set, if and when acpi drivers that
> > currently use pr_* interfaces switch to using acpi_pr_*, the execution
> > path goes from a what printk() does to the following:
> > 
> > acpi_pr_*
> > - setup static buffer
> > - calls acpi_get_name()
> > - acpi_get_name() calls acpi_ut_validate_buffer() and then calls
> >   acpi_ns_handle_to_pathname()
> > - acpi_ns_handle_to_pathname() calls acpi_ns_validate_handle() followed
> >   by acpi_ns_get_pathname_length() and so on.
> > 
> > I think this should give you a good idea of my concern. I think
> > acpi_pr_* full functionality should be enabled under special cases such
> > as some acpi_debug level setting or some other way, and not for default
> > case. I propose the following:
> > 
> > Make acpi_pr_* versions execute the full path to do acpi_get_name()
> > conditionally and not as a default case.
> 
> or maybe cache one or two.

Hi Joe,

Sorry, I had overlooked this email yesterday...

I agree that caching one or two is a good idea when we expect to see
repeated calls to a same object.  I think there may be a few repeated
calls, such that callee fails and calls acpi_pr_<level>() with its error
message, and then caller sees this error return and calls
acpi_pr_<level>() with its own message.  That said, considering
additional complexity of locking cache data, etc., I'd prefer keeping
the code simple for now since I do not expect this interface be called
very often.

> > To illustrate my point further, I currently see the following ACPI
> > messages in my dmesg buffer on my laptop. I haven't taken the time to
> > evaluate how many of them originate from acpi drivers, however I would
> > not want to see all of these becoming acpi_pr_* versions that do more
> > than what pr_* does today. I hope this explains my concern clearly.
> > 
> > [    0.000000] ACPI: RSDP 00000000000fc600 00024 (v02 HPQOEM)
> > [    0.000000] ACPI: XSDT 00000000bb7fe120 00084 (v01 HPQOEM SLIC-MPC
> > 0000000F      01000013)
> 
> [120+ lines of ACPI stuff]
> 
> > [    0.739844] ACPI: ACPI bus type pnp unregistered
> 
> I think ACPI is the noisiest subsystem.

I agree for the boot time messages.  The use of ACPI is limited at
run-time, such as hotplug operations, though.

> I'd rather see this logging made quieter by conversion to
> KERN_DEBUG or another selective mechanism.
>
> There just aren't many ACPI_INFO calls around and that why
> I thought it reasonable to convert the macro to call a
> different named function.

I looked at the first two major cases as follows.  Looks like there are
some considerations to minimize them.

ACPI_INFO is suppressed when ACPI_NO_ERROR_MESSAGES is defined.

    ACPI_INFO((AE_INFO, "RSDP %p %05X (v%.2d %6.6s)",
           ACPI_CAST_PTR (void, address),
           (ACPI_CAST_PTR(struct acpi_table_rsdp, header)->
           revision >
           0) ? ACPI_CAST_PTR(struct acpi_table_rsdp,
                              header)->length : 20,
           ACPI_CAST_PTR(struct acpi_table_rsdp,
                         header)->revision,
                         local_header.oem_id));

LAPIC info is printed at KERN_INFO.

     printk(KERN_INFO PREFIX
          "LAPIC (acpi_id[0x%02x] lapic_id[0x%02x] %s)\n",
           p->processor_id, p->id,
           (p->lapic_flags & ACPI_MADT_ENABLED) ? "enabled"

Thanks,
-Toshi


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  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-20 15:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-18 20:40 [PATCH 0/4] ACPI: hotplug messages improvement Toshi Kani
2012-07-18 20:40 ` [PATCH 1/4] ACPI: Add acpi_pr_<level>() interfaces Toshi Kani
2012-07-18 21:21   ` Joe Perches
2012-07-18 21:41     ` Toshi Kani
2012-07-18 21:54       ` Joe Perches
2012-07-18 22:08         ` Toshi Kani
2012-07-19  5:35           ` Moore, Robert
2012-07-19 14:36             ` Toshi Kani
2012-07-18 21:27   ` Joe Perches
2012-07-18 21:41     ` Toshi Kani
2012-07-18 22:06       ` Joe Perches
2012-07-18 22:11         ` Toshi Kani
2012-07-18 21:59   ` Shuah Khan
2012-07-18 22:26     ` Toshi Kani
2012-07-18 22:40       ` Shuah Khan
2012-07-18 22:52         ` Toshi Kani
2012-07-18 23:18           ` Shuah Khan
2012-07-19  0:38             ` Toshi Kani
2012-07-19 16:15               ` Shuah Khan
2012-07-19 16:34                 ` Joe Perches
2012-07-20 15:52                   ` Toshi Kani [this message]
2012-07-19 17:28                 ` Toshi Kani
2012-07-19 19:25                   ` Shuah Khan
2012-07-19 20:51                     ` Toshi Kani
2012-07-19 22:32                       ` Shuah Khan
2012-07-19 23:43                         ` Toshi Kani
2012-07-24 15:55                           ` Toshi Kani
2012-07-24 16:08                             ` Toshi Kani
2012-07-18 22:49       ` Joe Perches
2012-07-18 23:32         ` Toshi Kani
2012-07-18 20:40 ` [PATCH 2/4] ACPI: Update CPU hotplug messages Toshi Kani
2012-07-18 20:40 ` [PATCH 3/4] ACPI: Update Memory " Toshi Kani
2012-07-18 20:40 ` [PATCH 4/4] ACPI: Update Container " Toshi Kani
2012-07-25  3:45 ` [PATCH 0/4] ACPI: hotplug messages improvement Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2012-07-25 15:26   ` Toshi Kani

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