From: Artem Bityutskiy <artem.bityutskiy@linux.intel.com>
To: Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>
Cc: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
"linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org" <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"adrian.hunter@intel.com" <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
"Heinz.Egger@linutronix.de" <Heinz.Egger@linutronix.de>,
"thomas.wucher@linutronix.de" <thomas.wucher@linutronix.de>,
"shmulik.ladkani@gmail.com" <shmulik.ladkani@gmail.com>,
"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Marius.Mazarel@ugal.ro" <Marius.Mazarel@ugal.ro>,
"nyoushchenko@mvista.com" <nyoushchenko@mvista.com>
Subject: Re: UBI fastmap updates
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 20:50:29 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1343929829.25013.207.camel@sauron.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <501AB2C8.9010805@am.sony.com>
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On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 10:03 -0700, Tim Bird wrote:
> > So can I interpret this the following way. Not only fastmap give no
> > guarantees that it exists after an unclean reboot, it does not even give
> > guarantees that it exists after a clean reboot.
> >
> > Unless I am confused, the fastmap design is over-simplified.
>
> Fastmap is an optimization. Maybe I'm missing something, but
> I'm not sure why, if the optimization stopped working, you
> would want to reduce the functionality of the file system.
Fastmap gives huge improvement in attach time. So big that it becomes
not just optimization, but a selling feature. Or very important
optimization.
If you design a system which requires 1s startup time, you probably want
to always guarantee 1s startup time. E.g., if we are talking about a car
system.
You probably may get away with the fact that in case of power cut your
system starts up 10 seconds at the first boot (no fastmap).
But you probably would be disappointed if I say that even if you do
_not_ have power cuts, your system may still startup 10 seconds,
although most of the times it will take 1s.
Does this description help to accept my POW that while we cannot
simplify fastmap and give no improvement for the power cut cases, it is
quite important to guarantee that in normal cases fastmap is always
there, and UBI will always be fast.
If I buy a car which runs 200Km/h on the asphalt, I am OK if it cannot
do this on the cross-country trails, but I am not OK if it sometimes
cannot do 200Km/h even on the asphalt, when the moon is blue.
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Best Regards,
Artem Bityutskiy
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-08-02 17:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-07-09 12:18 UBI fastmap updates Richard Weinberger
2012-07-09 12:18 ` [PATCH 1/7] UBI: Fastmap: Fix lock imbalance in case of an error Richard Weinberger
2012-07-09 12:18 ` [PATCH 2/7] UBI: Fastmap: Get rid of find_fastmap switch Richard Weinberger
2012-07-09 12:18 ` [PATCH 3/7] UBI: Fastmap: Fix memory leak in error path Richard Weinberger
2012-07-09 12:18 ` [PATCH 4/7] UBI: Fastmap: Fix double free " Richard Weinberger
2012-07-09 12:18 ` [PATCH 5/7] UBI: Fastmap: Kerneldoc fixes Richard Weinberger
2012-07-09 12:18 ` [PATCH 6/7] UBI: Fastmap: Make sure that find_wl_entry() never returns NULL Richard Weinberger
2012-07-09 12:18 ` [PATCH 7/7] UBI: Fastmap: Make checkpatch.pl happy Richard Weinberger
2012-08-02 14:12 ` UBI fastmap updates Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-02 14:15 ` Richard Weinberger
2012-08-02 14:29 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-02 14:51 ` Richard Weinberger
2012-08-02 16:17 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-02 16:32 ` Richard Weinberger
2012-08-02 16:45 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-02 16:54 ` Richard Weinberger
2012-08-02 17:03 ` Tim Bird
2012-08-02 17:06 ` Richard Weinberger
2012-08-02 17:40 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-02 17:45 ` Richard Weinberger
2012-08-02 17:59 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-02 18:03 ` Richard Weinberger
2012-08-02 18:15 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-05 8:23 ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-08-05 14:25 ` Richard Weinberger
2012-08-02 17:50 ` Artem Bityutskiy [this message]
2012-08-02 14:58 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-02 14:59 ` Richard Weinberger
2012-08-02 15:18 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-02 15:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2012-08-06 17:36 ` Richard Weinberger
2012-08-07 4:21 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-07 7:29 ` Richard Weinberger
2012-08-07 18:53 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-02 18:50 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-02 18:56 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-03 8:47 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-03 8:56 ` Richard Weinberger
2012-08-17 13:11 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-17 13:33 ` Richard Weinberger
2012-08-17 13:41 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-17 13:43 ` Richard Weinberger
2012-08-17 14:06 ` Artem Bityutskiy
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-09-28 13:55 Richard Weinberger
2013-10-03 16:44 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-07-02 16:23 Richard Weinberger
2012-06-29 15:14 Richard Weinberger
2012-06-30 10:43 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-06-30 10:53 ` Richard Weinberger
2012-06-30 11:24 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-06-30 14:24 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-07-08 11:47 ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-07-08 12:07 ` Richard Weinberger
2012-07-08 15:11 ` Richard Weinberger
2012-07-09 7:37 ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-07-09 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2012-06-27 15:57 Richard Weinberger
2012-06-23 13:03 Richard Weinberger
2012-06-27 4:20 ` Namjae Jeon
2012-06-27 6:48 ` Nikita V. Youshchenko
2012-06-27 7:17 ` Richard Weinberger
2012-06-18 16:18 UBI Fastmap updates Richard Weinberger
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