From: Bernd Petrovitsch <bernd@petrovitsch.priv.at>
To: wbrana <wbrana@gmail.com>
Cc: Ondrej Zary <linux@rainbow-software.org>,
Martin Nybo Andersen <tweek@tweek.dk>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Drop support for x86-32
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:40:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1345812057.28613.20.camel@thorin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ7jCmnwXNXmoxT6sdOc-8znsUnnW+Rq8ioJ_8B8KnT0K2uc=A@mail.gmail.com>
On Don, 2012-08-23 at 20:07 +0200, wbrana wrote:
> On 8/23/12, Ondrej Zary <linux@rainbow-software.org> wrote:
> > Please stop trolling (and top-posting). Linux is NOT Windows where people
> > must
> > throw out their hardware because it stopped working in new version. There
> > are
> > millions of 32-bit x86 machines all around the world. If new Windows will
> > not
> > run on them, Linux will.
> Windows 9 will be probably released in 2015. Linux always has tree
What do you mean with "Linux"? The Linux kernel as such? Some (and
which) distributions?
> with long term support, which means support for x86-32 would be
> dropped in 2017. In 2017 all 32-bit machines will be trash.
The long-term-supported *Linux kernel* won't be eternally there BTW. And
their maintainers decide when they drop the support - and others could
take over then BTW.
And you obviously never thought about embedded devices.
Servers, laptops, notebooks and desktop computers are not the whole
computing world - and from the pure numbers not even the majority BTW.
It is - obviously(?) - all the world that MSFT cares about because they
were never really present elsewhere. And we know that it is not a
technical reason that we pay the MSFT tax for each laptop ....
Please stop trolling and start sending patches. Thank you.
On Don, 2012-08-23 at 20:40 +0200, wbrana wrote:
On 8/23/12, David Daney <ddaney.cavm@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I suspected as much. So from your point of view, this issue is of
> > exactly zero importance.
> I'm using software which is developed by others. As I already said
> many software would be developed faster if x86-32 could be dropped.
Please proof that it will be developed "faster" (whatever that means
to you). Thank you.
> Support for x86-32 can mean no support for X32.
So you want the Linux kernel people to drop support for some
architecture in the hope others follow (because you will consequently
send mails there with "the Linux kernel dropped the support, you should
too" hoping that some other software will be developed
"faster" (whatever that means to you)?
*If* you really miss something in some other parts (compilers,
virtualization, ...) or they developing to slow *for you*, help them and
send patches there but do not try to lure others into fighting your
cause.
Sorry to all others for feeding the troll,
Bernd
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2012-08-23 10:41 Drop support for x86-32 wbrana
[not found] ` <201208231814.21168.tweek@tweek.dk>
2012-08-23 17:22 ` wbrana
2012-08-23 17:51 ` Ondrej Zary
2012-08-23 18:07 ` wbrana
2012-08-24 12:40 ` Bernd Petrovitsch [this message]
2012-08-24 12:59 ` wbrana
2012-08-24 13:51 ` wbrana
2012-08-24 15:48 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2012-08-24 15:55 ` wbrana
[not found] ` <CANQmPXj6VsxP596xeU5SZaL=eyDJR4_ShBxCJVqthYTdNA4HSw@mail.gmail.com>
2012-08-24 16:11 ` wbrana
2012-08-24 16:14 ` Martin Nybo Andersen
2012-08-24 16:17 ` wbrana
2012-08-24 16:20 ` Bobby Powers
2012-08-24 16:24 ` wbrana
2012-08-24 16:20 ` Martin Nybo Andersen
2012-08-24 16:26 ` wbrana
[not found] ` <201208241832.09577.tweek@tweek.dk>
2012-08-24 16:39 ` wbrana
2012-08-24 16:24 ` Chris Friesen
2012-08-24 16:54 ` Martin Nybo Andersen
2012-08-24 17:05 ` wbrana
2012-08-24 17:25 ` Chris Friesen
2012-08-24 17:28 ` Brian Gerst
2012-08-24 18:11 ` Gene Heskett
[not found] ` <201208241952.04988.tweek@tweek.dk>
2012-08-24 18:18 ` wbrana
2012-08-24 18:35 ` Martin Nybo Andersen
2012-08-24 18:59 ` wbrana
2012-08-24 19:53 ` Martin Nybo Andersen
2012-08-25 8:27 ` wbrana
2012-08-25 8:43 ` Gene Heskett
2012-08-25 9:25 ` wbrana
2012-08-25 12:20 ` wbrana
2012-08-25 14:41 ` wbrana
2012-08-25 15:51 ` Shentino
2012-08-25 16:07 ` wbrana
2012-08-25 11:35 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2012-08-25 11:52 ` wbrana
2012-08-25 16:46 ` Jochen Striepe
2012-08-25 17:22 ` wbrana
2012-08-25 17:24 ` Shentino
2012-08-25 17:27 ` wbrana
2012-08-25 17:34 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-08-25 17:38 ` wbrana
2012-08-26 2:18 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2012-08-26 2:30 ` Cruz Julian Bishop
2012-08-27 12:21 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2012-08-25 17:40 ` Jochen Striepe
2012-08-25 17:49 ` wbrana
2012-08-25 0:51 ` Cruz Julian Bishop
2012-08-25 7:46 ` wbrana
[not found] ` <CANQmPXgefyCJuzFiAugp6OW2+HtjABSWuQqG33gAU_XgQ1V_2A@mail.gmail.com>
2012-08-24 16:19 ` wbrana
2012-08-24 16:36 ` Alan Cox
2012-08-24 16:36 ` wbrana
2012-08-24 16:47 ` Alan Cox
2012-08-24 16:45 ` wbrana
2012-08-26 13:56 ` Mark Lord
[not found] ` <CAJ7jCm=A+OOQNq3HYsyM9bVXYQbfxkXaJg+yN_-vyA+VM9-jgQ@mail.gmail.com>
2012-08-29 23:03 ` Mark Lord
2012-08-29 23:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2012-08-25 0:57 ` Cruz Julian Bishop
2012-08-23 18:08 ` Al Viro
2012-08-23 18:17 ` wbrana
2012-08-23 18:22 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-08-23 18:23 ` David Daney
2012-08-23 18:30 ` wbrana
2012-08-23 18:33 ` David Daney
2012-08-23 18:40 ` wbrana
2012-08-23 19:01 ` Al Viro
2012-08-24 9:51 ` wbrana
2012-08-23 18:50 ` Martin Nybo Andersen
2012-08-23 18:54 ` Brian Gerst
2012-08-23 19:03 ` wbrana
2012-08-23 19:04 ` Brian Gerst
2012-08-23 19:08 ` wbrana
2012-08-23 19:35 ` Brian Gerst
2012-08-24 9:50 ` wbrana
2012-08-24 10:27 ` Ronnie Collinson
2012-08-24 10:30 ` wbrana
2012-08-24 10:36 ` wbrana
2012-08-24 10:38 ` Ronnie Collinson
2012-08-24 10:42 ` wbrana
2012-08-24 10:49 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2012-08-24 10:59 ` Ronnie Collinson
2012-08-24 11:57 ` Brian Gerst
2012-08-24 9:53 ` wbrana
2012-08-24 12:00 ` Brian Gerst
2012-08-24 12:04 ` wbrana
2012-08-24 12:14 ` Ondrej Zary
2012-08-24 12:27 ` wbrana
2012-08-24 18:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-08-24 18:57 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-08-24 19:13 ` Alan Cox
2012-08-24 19:58 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-08-24 20:06 ` Dave Jones
2012-08-24 20:25 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-08-24 20:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-08-24 19:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-08-24 19:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-08-24 20:18 ` Space-Certified CPUs and Linux Craig Milo Rogers
2012-08-24 20:49 ` Drop support for x86-32 Sam Ravnborg
2012-08-30 1:14 ` david
2012-08-24 16:24 ` Raymond Jennings
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-08-24 18:09 Martin Nybo Andersen
2012-08-24 19:32 Raymond Jennings
2012-08-26 14:26 Free Email Service
2012-08-26 17:01 ` Shentino
2012-08-26 16:35 Free Email Service
2012-08-28 8:24 Boszormenyi Zoltan
2012-08-30 8:46 Free Email Service
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