From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756876Ab3BVOFN (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:05:13 -0500 Received: from 173-166-109-252-newengland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net ([173.166.109.252]:55028 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755642Ab3BVOFK (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:05:10 -0500 Message-ID: <1361541894.26780.62.camel@laptop> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] cpustat: use atomic operations to read/update stats From: Peter Zijlstra To: Ingo Molnar Cc: Frederic Weisbecker , Kevin Hilman , Russell King , Thomas Gleixner , Steven Rostedt , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:04:54 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20130222135411.GA9202@gmail.com> References: <1361512604-2720-1-git-send-email-khilman@linaro.org> <1361522767.26780.44.camel@laptop> <20130222125019.GC17948@somewhere.redhat.com> <1361540926.26780.56.camel@laptop> <20130222135411.GA9202@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.2-0ubuntu0.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 2013-02-22 at 14:54 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > * Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > On Fri, 2013-02-22 at 13:50 +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote: > > > > atomic64_read() and atomic64_set() are supposed to take care > > > of that, without even the need for _inc() or _add() parts > > > that use LOCK. > > > > Are you sure? Generally atomic*_set() is not actually an > > atomic operation. > > as per Documentation/atomic_ops.h: I think the interesting part is: "The setting is atomic in that the return values of the atomic operations by all threads are guaranteed to be correct reflecting either the value that has been set with this operation or set with another operation. A proper implicit or explicit memory barrier is needed before the value set with the operation is guaranteed to be readable with atomic_read from another thread." Which does give us the wanted guarantee, however: I checked arch/x86/include/asm/atomic64_32.h and we use cmpxchg8b for everything from _set() to _read(), which translates into 'horridly stupendifyingly slow' for a number of machines, but coherent.