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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alessio Igor Bogani <abogani@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@tilera.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Geoff Levand <geoff@infradead.org>,
	Gilad Ben Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>,
	Hakan Akkan <hakanakkan@gmail.com>,
	Li Zhong <zhong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung.kim@lge.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/7] sched: Update rq clock on nohz CPU before setting fair group shares
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:47:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1365594427.30071.61.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130410110650.GD28828@gmail.com>

On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 13:06 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:

> There's just a handful of high level entry points, right? schedule(), wakeup, 
> scheduler tick, maybe notifiers - anything else? 

I suppose there's some cgroup muck and the various system calls; most
of them should be covered if we take some lower level primitives or so.

We could 'simply' hijack rq->lock and clear the state every time we
acquire or release it.. maybe have an exemption for the balance double
lock ops.

> Documenting/listing those would 
> be nice anyway, near the top of kernel/sched/core.c or so.

Sure and it might have to do.. I just prefer an option that's less
prone to human failure; being both paranoid and lazy :-)

> The other approach would be to periodically clear the flag from the timer tick. 
> That would catch invalid rq->clock use probabilistically.

Right, but once we have the most common paths covered it is very very
unlikely we'll hit the weird corner cases like this. But it is an
option.

> > I'd clear at the beginning, but that's more or less the same thing.
> > 
> > We have the .sched.text section but I'm not sure we've been consistent enough 
> > with that to be useful. But otherwise we'd be able to clear on section 
> > entry/exit or so.
> 
> Hm, I'm not sure that can be made to work sanely.

Yeah.. one option is to make all code in kernel/sched/ part of
.sched.text but that might be overkill -- not to mention we'd have to
peel things like completions and wait_queues out of sched/kernel/core.c
but that seems like a good idea anyway.


  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-10 11:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-06 16:45 [RFC GIT PULL] nohz: Full dynticks rq clock handling Frederic Weisbecker
2013-04-06 16:45 ` [PATCH 1/7] sched: Update rq clock on nohz CPU before migrating tasks Frederic Weisbecker
2013-04-08 11:48   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-04-09  9:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-09 13:11     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-04-06 16:45 ` [PATCH 2/7] sched: Update rq clock on nohz CPU before setting fair group shares Frederic Weisbecker
2013-04-09  9:26   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-09 13:21     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-04-10  7:05       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-10 10:06         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-04-10 11:02           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-10 11:06             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-04-10 11:47               ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2013-04-10 11:50                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-04-06 16:45 ` [PATCH 3/7] sched: Update rq clock on tickless CPUs before calling check_preempt_curr() Frederic Weisbecker
2013-04-09 13:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-09 16:53     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-04-06 16:45 ` [PATCH 4/7] sched: Update rq clock earlier in unthrottle_cfs_rq Frederic Weisbecker
2013-04-06 16:45 ` [PATCH 5/7] sched: Update rq clock before idle balancing Frederic Weisbecker
2013-04-06 16:45 ` [PATCH 6/7] sched: Use an accessor to read rq clock Frederic Weisbecker
2013-04-06 16:46 ` [PATCH 7/7] sched: Debug nohz " Frederic Weisbecker
2013-04-10 10:26 ` [RFC GIT PULL] nohz: Full dynticks rq clock handling Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-10 10:29   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-04-11 15:11   ` Frederic Weisbecker

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