From: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
To: Michael Wang <wangyun@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Alex Shi <alex.shi@intel.com>,
Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Nikunj A. Dadhania" <nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: wake-affine throttle
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 11:00:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1365670840.19620.132.camel@marge.simpson.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1365669862.19620.129.camel@marge.simpson.net>
On Thu, 2013-04-11 at 10:44 +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-04-11 at 16:26 +0800, Michael Wang wrote:
>
> > The 1:N is a good reason to explain why the chance that wakee's hot data
> > cached on curr_cpu is lower, and since it's just 'lower' not 'extinct',
> > after the throttle interval large enough, it will be balanced, this
> > could be proved, since during my test, when the interval become too big,
> > the improvement start to drop.
>
> Magnitude of improvement drops just because there's less damage done
> methinks. You'll eventually run out of measurable damage :)
>
> Yes, it's not really extinct, you _can_ reap a gain, it's just not at
> all likely to work out. A more symetric load will fare better, but any
> 1:N thing just has to spread far and wide to have any chance to perform.
> > Hmm...that's an interesting point, the workload contain different
> > 'priority' works, and depend on each other, if mother starving, all the
> > kids could do nothing but wait for her, may be that's the reason why the
> > benefit is so significant, since in such case, mother's little quicker
> > respond will make all the kids happy :)
>
> Exactly. The entire load is server latency bound. Keep the server on
> cpu, the load performs as best it can given unavoidable data miss cost.
(ie serial producer, parallel consumer... choke point lies with utterly
unscalable serial work producer)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-04-11 9:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-10 3:30 [PATCH] sched: wake-affine throttle Michael Wang
2013-04-10 4:16 ` Alex Shi
2013-04-10 5:11 ` Michael Wang
2013-04-10 5:27 ` Alex Shi
2013-04-10 8:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-10 9:22 ` Michael Wang
2013-04-11 6:01 ` Michael Wang
2013-04-11 7:30 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-04-11 8:26 ` Michael Wang
2013-04-11 8:44 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-04-11 9:00 ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2013-04-11 9:02 ` Michael Wang
2013-04-12 3:17 ` Michael Wang
2013-04-22 4:21 ` Michael Wang
2013-04-22 5:27 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-04-22 6:19 ` Michael Wang
2013-04-22 10:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-22 10:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-04-23 4:05 ` Michael Wang
2013-04-22 17:49 ` Paul Turner
2013-04-23 4:01 ` Michael Wang
2013-04-27 2:46 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-02 5:48 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-02 7:10 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-05-02 7:36 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-03 3:46 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-03 5:01 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-05-03 5:57 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-03 6:14 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-05-04 2:20 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-07 2:46 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-13 2:27 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-16 7:40 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-16 7:45 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-21 3:20 ` [PATCH v2] " Michael Wang
2013-05-21 6:47 ` Alex Shi
2013-05-21 6:52 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-22 8:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-22 9:25 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-22 14:55 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-05-23 2:12 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-28 5:02 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-28 6:29 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-05-28 7:22 ` Michael Wang
2013-05-28 8:49 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-05-28 8:56 ` Michael Wang
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