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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: "Myklebust, Trond" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Cc: "ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" 
	<ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"stable@vger.kernel.org" <stable@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] KS Topic request: Handling the Stable kernel, let's dump the cc: stable tag
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 19:47:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1374547626.2335.82.camel@dabdike> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1374547207.2413.7.camel@leira.trondhjem.org>

On Tue, 2013-07-23 at 02:40 +0000, Myklebust, Trond wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 23:27 +0400, James Bottomley wrote:
> > The solution, to me, looks simple:  Let's co-opt a process we already
> > know how to do: mailing list review and tree handling.  So the proposal
> > is simple:
> > 
> >      1. Drop the cc: stable@ tag: it makes it way too easy to add an ill
> >         reviewed patch to stable
> >      2. All patches to stable should follow current review rules: They
> >         should go to the mailing list the original patch was sent to
> >         once the original is upstream as a request for stable.
> >      3. Following debate on the list, the original maintainer would be
> >         responsible for collecting the patches (including the upstream
> >         commit) adjudicating on them and passing them on to stable after
> >         list review (either by git tree pull or email to stable@).
> > 
> > I contend this raises the bar for adding patches to stable much higher,
> > which seems to be needed, and adds a review stage which involves all the
> > original reviewers.
> 
> Could we keep the Cc: stable tag itself, since the dependency
> information ("Cc: <stable@vger.kernel.org> # 3.3.x: a1f84a3: sched:
> Check for idle") is actually very useful? If we discard that, then we
> really should revise the whole stable system, since it would mean that
> we are in effect discarding the 'upstream first' rule.

The two don't follow.  No-one's proposing to dump the must be upstream
rule.  The proposal is to modify the automatic behaviour that leads to
over tagging for stable and consequently too many "stable" patches that
aren't really.

James



  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-23  2:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-15 19:27 KS Topic request: Handling the Stable kernel, let's dump the cc: stable tag James Bottomley
2013-07-15 19:45 ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2013-07-15 19:55   ` Willy Tarreau
2013-07-15 20:56     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-07-15 21:09       ` Joe Perches
2013-07-15 21:21         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-07-15 21:34           ` Joe Perches
2013-07-21  4:06         ` Rob Landley
2013-07-15 21:52       ` Willy Tarreau
2013-07-15 20:15   ` Mark Brown
2013-07-15 21:07     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-07-15 20:19 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-07-15 22:04   ` David Woodhouse
2013-07-15 22:07     ` Guenter Roeck
2013-07-15 22:38       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-15 23:22         ` Guenter Roeck
2013-07-16  0:13           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-16  0:21             ` Greg KH
2013-07-16  0:25               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-16 15:50                 ` Paul Gortmaker
2013-07-15 20:20 ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-15 21:44 ` Greg KH
2013-07-15 21:55   ` Greg KH
2013-07-15 22:01     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-15 23:08       ` Greg KH
2013-07-16  0:40         ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-16  9:06       ` Jiri Kosina
2013-07-15 22:01   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-07-16  0:06     ` Greg KH
2013-07-16  2:09       ` Steven Rostedt
2013-07-16  2:41         ` Ben Hutchings
2013-07-16  3:27           ` Dave Airlie
2013-07-16  3:43             ` Steven Rostedt
2013-07-16  4:10             ` Ben Hutchings
2013-07-16  6:23             ` Greg KH
2013-07-16  6:10       ` James Bottomley
2013-07-16  6:28         ` Greg KH
2013-07-15 22:22   ` Jiri Kosina
2013-07-15 23:40     ` Jiri Kosina
2013-07-15 23:59     ` Greg KH
2013-07-16  2:30   ` Ben Hutchings
2013-07-16  6:13     ` Greg KH
2013-07-16  9:11       ` Jiri Kosina
2013-07-16 16:36         ` Greg KH
2013-07-17  3:53           ` Ben Hutchings
2013-07-17  4:24             ` Greg KH
2013-07-16  5:17   ` James Bottomley
2013-07-16  6:20     ` Greg KH
2013-07-16  7:43       ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " James Bottomley
2013-07-16  9:46         ` Jiri Kosina
2013-07-16 12:43           ` Ben Hutchings
2013-07-16 16:35           ` Greg KH
2013-07-16 23:15             ` Jiri Kosina
2013-07-16 13:14         ` Josh Boyer
2013-07-17 15:08         ` John W. Linville
2013-07-18  7:45           ` Kalle Valo
2013-07-16 10:02       ` Jan Kara
2013-07-16  6:24   ` David Lang
2013-07-16 16:45     ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2013-07-16  2:00 ` Ben Hutchings
2013-07-16  9:53   ` Mark Brown
2013-07-21  4:11 ` Rob Landley
2013-07-21 15:09   ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Ben Hutchings
2013-07-22 21:24     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-07-23  2:29       ` Li Zefan
2013-07-23  2:40 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-07-23  2:47   ` James Bottomley [this message]
2013-07-23  2:57     ` Myklebust, Trond

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