From: Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
KML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>, Alex Shi <alex.shi@intel.com>,
Preeti U Murthy <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
aswin@hp.com, scott.norton@hp.com, chegu_vinod@hp.com,
Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] sched: Reduce overestimating avg_idle
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 00:36:41 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1375342601.1974.104.camel@j-VirtualBox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51F9349A.3090605@redhat.com>
> I wonder if we could get even more conservative values
> of avg_idle by clamping delta to max, before calling
> update_avg...
>
> Or rather, I wonder if that would matter enough to make
> a difference, and in what direction that difference would
> be.
>
> In other words:
>
> if (rq->idle_stamp) {
> u64 delta = rq->clock - rq->idle_stamp;
> u64 max = (sysctl_sched_migration_cost * 3) / 2;
>
> if (delta > max)
> delta = max;
>
> update_avg(&rq->avg_idle, delta);
> rq->idle_stamp = 0;
> }
Yes, I initially tried to limit delta to the max. That helped keep the
avg_idle smaller and provided even better performance improvements on
the 8 socket HT-enabled case. Here were some of those performance boosts
on AIM7:
alltests: +14.5% custom: +15.9% disk: +15.9%
fserver: +33.7% new_fserver: +15.7% high_systime: +16.7%
shared: +14.1%
When we limit the average instead of the delta, the performance boosts
were in the range of 5-10%, with the exception of fserver.
I initially thought that limiting delta to a small value might cause the
average to often be underestimated. But come to think of it, this might
actually provide a more accurate estimate of whether the majority of
idle durations are either less than or greater than migration_cost. Idle
durations can be a lot higher while there's a limit to how small each
short idle duration is. This may help offset some of that bias towards a
high avg.
So how acceptable is setting a limit of 2*migration cost or less on the
delta rather than on the avg?
Thanks,
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-08-01 7:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-31 9:37 [RFC PATCH] sched: Reduce overestimating avg_idle Jason Low
2013-07-31 9:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-02 8:20 ` Jason Low
2013-07-31 15:45 ` Rik van Riel
2013-07-31 16:00 ` Rik van Riel
2013-08-01 7:36 ` Jason Low [this message]
2013-08-01 7:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
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