From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: UEFI Plugfest 2013 -- New Orleans
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 22:06:51 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1376946411.5087.2.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130819203937.GA28967@srcf.ucam.org>
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On Mon, 2013-08-19 at 21:39 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> The plugfests have, from our perspective, always been useful in
> identifying new implementation interpretations before hardware ships.
> But even then, it's usually too late to modify the firmware. Vendors who
> care about Linux compatibility have already tested Linux before we turn
> up.
You effectively seem to be suggesting that nothing will ever get better
on the UEFI side, and the only benefit of the plugfest is that we get to
see the latest brokenness and try to come up with a workaround for it
before the consumers are afflicted with it?
That's a really pessimistic view, and I'd really like us to be a little
more optimistic. Things can't be, or at least can't *stay*, that bad.
Surely?
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dwmw2
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-08-19 21:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-16 15:20 UEFI Plugfest 2013 -- New Orleans John W. Linville
2013-08-17 0:44 ` James Bottomley
2013-08-19 8:25 ` David Woodhouse
2013-08-19 12:55 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-08-19 15:22 ` James Bottomley
2013-08-19 16:00 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-08-19 17:02 ` James Bottomley
2013-08-19 17:21 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-08-19 17:38 ` James Bottomley
2013-08-19 17:47 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-08-19 20:09 ` David Woodhouse
2013-08-19 20:19 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-08-19 20:21 ` David Woodhouse
2013-08-19 20:39 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-08-19 21:06 ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2013-08-19 21:30 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-09-02 6:23 ` Matt Fleming
2013-08-19 15:17 ` Borislav Petkov
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