public inbox for linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: James Bottomley <jbottomley@parallels.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sysfs: handle duplicate removal attempts in sysfs_remove_group()
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 10:29:00 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1385375339.2354.28.camel@dabdike> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131122160252.GA8981@mtj.dyndns.org>

On Fri, 2013-11-22 at 11:02 -0500, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 08:43:55AM -0700, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > So, we do have cases where the parent is removed before the child.  I
> > > suppose the parent pci bridge is removed already?  AFAICS this
> > > shouldn't break anything but people did seem to expect the removals to
> > > be ordered from child to parent.  Bjorn, is this something you expect
> > > to happened?
> > 
> > I do not expect a PCI bridge to be removed before the devices below
> > it.  We should be removing all the children before removing the parent
> > bridge.
> > 
> > But is this related to PCI?  I don't see the connection yet.  I tried
> 
> I'm not sure.  It was from thunderbolt and nobody is reporting it on
> other interconnects, so it could be.
> 
> > to look into this a bit (my notes are at
> > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65281), but I haven't
> > figured out the big-picture problem yet.
> > 
> > I don't have warm fuzzies that adding a "have we already removed this"
> > check is the best resolution, but maybe that's just because I don't
> > understand the problem.
> 
> Yeah, the whole thing is sorta pointless.  Just issuing removal and
> continuing on should do, IMHO.

I'd go for that as well.  We have huge problems with the _del calls
because visibility is strict hierarchy and it's not always easy to work
out who's underneath us.

It's going to be really annoying when refcounting works perfectly for
objects, so you can just do puts in any order, but you have to have
_del() called to remove subordinate objects before their parent.

James


  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-25 10:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-19 13:09 [PATCH] sysfs: handle duplicate removal attempts in sysfs_remove_group() Mika Westerberg
2013-11-19 13:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-20  6:18 ` Tejun Heo
2013-11-20  9:56   ` [PATCH v2] " Mika Westerberg
2013-11-22 15:43   ` [PATCH] " Bjorn Helgaas
2013-11-22 16:02     ` Tejun Heo
2013-11-25 10:29       ` James Bottomley [this message]
2013-11-25 12:43         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-22 22:43     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-23 22:56     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-23 22:53       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-11-23 23:12         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-23 23:07           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-11-23 23:36             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-24  1:09               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-24 15:05                 ` Tejun Heo
2013-11-25 10:11                 ` Mika Westerberg
2013-11-25 10:41                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-25 23:51                     ` Gwendal Grignou
2013-11-25 12:19                   ` [PATCH] ATA: Fix port removal ordering Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-27  1:58                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-27  4:34                     ` Jingoo Han
2013-11-27 18:56                     ` Tejun Heo
2013-11-24  0:17             ` [PATCH] PCI: Move device_del() from pci_stop_dev() to pci_destroy_dev() Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-25  4:54               ` Yinghai Lu
2013-11-25  4:58                 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-11-25 11:23                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-25 19:48                     ` Yinghai Lu
2013-11-25 11:22                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-25 19:45                   ` Yinghai Lu
2013-11-25 20:57                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-25  9:47               ` Mika Westerberg
2013-11-25 11:24                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-25 21:59               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-11-25 22:19                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-28  0:41                 ` Jingoo Han

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=1385375339.2354.28.camel@dabdike \
    --to=jbottomley@parallels.com \
    --cc=bhelgaas@google.com \
    --cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=rjw@rjwysocki.net \
    --cc=tj@kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox