public inbox for linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Matthew Garrett <matthew.garrett@nebula.com>
To: "pavel@ucw.cz" <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove unnecessarily gendered language
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 19:09:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1386616168.20263.1.camel@x230> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131208123848.GC14108@amd.pavel.ucw.cz>

[-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --]
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8", Size: 1158 bytes --]

On Sun, 2013-12-08 at 13:38 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> On Thu 2013-12-05 16:35:15, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > Using "he" to refer to objects without gender is (with some exceptions)
> > incorrect in English, so that set should be uncontroversial. "He" is
> > usually considered acceptable when referring to an individual of unknown
> > gender, but so is "they". The latter version has the advantage of not
> > giving the impression that we believe all our users are male.
> 
> As you said, "he" is acceptable when referring to an individual of
> unknown gender. Disadvantage of "they" is that it makes the text
> confusing if not done carefuly. And random sample of 3 changes made it
> clear you were not careful...

Acceptable but increasingly socially frowned upon. Of the set you
commented on, one was unclear as a result of the transition. I've
examined the rest and am fairly happy with their clarity, but, well,
that's the point of review.

-- 
Matthew Garrett <matthew.garrett@nebula.com>
ÿôèº{.nÇ+‰·Ÿ®‰­†+%ŠËÿ±éݶ\x17¥Šwÿº{.nÇ+‰·¥Š{±þG«éÿŠ{ayº\x1dʇڙë,j\a­¢f£¢·hšïêÿ‘êçz_è®\x03(­éšŽŠÝ¢j"ú\x1a¶^[m§ÿÿ¾\a«þG«éÿ¢¸?™¨è­Ú&£ø§~á¶iO•æ¬z·švØ^\x14\x04\x1a¶^[m§ÿÿÃ\fÿ¶ìÿ¢¸?–I¥

  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-09 19:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-03  1:18 [PATCH] Remove unnecessarily gendered language Matthew Garrett
2013-12-03  9:04 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-12-03 17:53   ` Randy Dunlap
2013-12-04  2:36   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-12-05 10:48 ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-05 16:35   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-12-08 12:38     ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-09 19:09       ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2013-12-10  7:56         ` Oliver Neukum
2013-12-05 16:54   ` One Thousand Gnomes
2013-12-05 17:41     ` Harald Arnesen
2013-12-08 12:47     ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-18 13:53 ` Mark Brown

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=1386616168.20263.1.camel@x230 \
    --to=matthew.garrett@nebula.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=pavel@ucw.cz \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox