From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1761205Ab3LITJq (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Dec 2013 14:09:46 -0500 Received: from mail-bl2lp0203.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([207.46.163.203]:30010 "EHLO na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752975Ab3LITJp (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Dec 2013 14:09:45 -0500 From: Matthew Garrett To: "pavel@ucw.cz" CC: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove unnecessarily gendered language Thread-Topic: [PATCH] Remove unnecessarily gendered language Thread-Index: AQHO78Wp335rwpc28EKOB9Zlmmg7eZpFb2wAgATV8JmAAf91AA== Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 19:09:28 +0000 Message-ID: <1386616168.20263.1.camel@x230> References: <1386033532-25431-1-git-send-email-matthew.garrett@nebula.com> <20131205104808.GA6455@amd.pavel.ucw.cz> <1386261314.14035.8.camel@x230> <20131208123848.GC14108@amd.pavel.ucw.cz> In-Reply-To: <20131208123848.GC14108@amd.pavel.ucw.cz> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [50.0.250.146] x-forefront-prvs: 00550ABE1F x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM;SFS:(189002)(199002)(24454002)(51704005)(377424004)(19580395003)(47446002)(46102001)(74662001)(31966008)(74502001)(74366001)(56776001)(54316002)(77982001)(59766001)(54356001)(53806001)(79102001)(81342001)(76786001)(81542001)(83072002)(85852003)(69226001)(74876001)(80022001)(74706001)(33646001)(51856001)(19580405001)(83322001)(77096001)(76796001)(33716001)(66066001)(87266001)(87936001)(80976001)(2656002)(81816001)(81686001)(85306002)(65816001)(63696002)(76482001)(50986001)(47736001)(4396001)(90146001)(49866001)(47976001)(56816005);DIR:OUT;SFP:;SCL:1;SRVR:BN1PR05MB422;H:BN1PR05MB423.namprd05.prod.outlook.com;CLIP:50.0.250.146;FPR:;RD:InfoNoRecords;MX:1;A:1;LANG:en; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-ID: <1B48CA887A26124D8446CE787F4B0C37@namprd05.prod.outlook.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: nebula.com Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by mail.home.local id rB9J9rTU007847 On Sun, 2013-12-08 at 13:38 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: > On Thu 2013-12-05 16:35:15, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > Using "he" to refer to objects without gender is (with some exceptions) > > incorrect in English, so that set should be uncontroversial. "He" is > > usually considered acceptable when referring to an individual of unknown > > gender, but so is "they". The latter version has the advantage of not > > giving the impression that we believe all our users are male. > > As you said, "he" is acceptable when referring to an individual of > unknown gender. Disadvantage of "they" is that it makes the text > confusing if not done carefuly. And random sample of 3 changes made it > clear you were not careful... Acceptable but increasingly socially frowned upon. Of the set you commented on, one was unclear as a result of the transition. I've examined the rest and am fairly happy with their clarity, but, well, that's the point of review. -- Matthew Garrett {.n++%ݶw{.n+{G{ayʇڙ,jfhz_(階ݢj"mG?&~iOzv^m ?I