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From: Stefani Seibold <stefani@seibold.net>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Anvin <hpa@linux.intel.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andreas Brief <Andreas.Brief@rohde-schwarz.com>,
	Martin Runge <Martin.Runge@rohde-schwarz.com>
Subject: Re: [x86, vdso] BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at d34bd000
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 21:03:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1394481804.980.9.camel@wall-e.seibold.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrW6CT2ceHiHzMaZUGkwEBFWQEemFS5Fj=V7Wg-cNArMLg@mail.gmail.com>

Am Montag, den 10.03.2014, 10:12 -0700 schrieb Andy Lutomirski:
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Linus Torvalds
> <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Mar 10, 2014 8:01 AM, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have mentioned in the past wanting to move the fixmap to the low part
> >> of the kernel space, because the top isn't really fixed...
> >
> > How about the high part of the user address space, just above the stack?
> > Leave a unmapped page in between, or something. The stack is already
> > randomized, isn't it?
> 
> For the !compat_vdso case, I don't like it -- this will put the vdso
> (which is executable) at a constant offset from the stack, which will
> make it much easier to use the vdso to defeat ASLR.
> 
> For the compat_vdso case, this only works if the address is *not*
> random, unless we're going to start giving each process its very own
> relocated vdso.
> 
> >
> > That would actually be preferable in a few ways, notably not having to mark
> > page directories user accessible in the kennel space area.
> 
> Is that where the rabid pte dogs live?
> 
> We can already avoid making fixmap pages user-accessible in the
> !compat_vdso case for 32-bit tasks -- the vdso lives in a couple of
> more-or-less ordinary vmas.
> 

What is now the next step? Kick out the compat VDSO? Or should i
implement the dual VDSO. And what is now the preferred way to map the
VDSO into the user space? Using install_special_mapping() or map it
beyond the user stack?

The is easiest and fastest way to get a working result is to do the non
compat VDSO only mapping using install_special_mapping(). The dual VDSO
would take a little bit more time.

It would be great to have first a consensus about the design before i
start to implement ;-)

- Stefani


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-03-10 20:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-07  1:38 [x86, vdso] BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at d34bd000 Fengguang Wu
2014-03-07  1:48 ` [x86, vdso] BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at 91c24000 Fengguang Wu
2014-03-07  7:21 ` [x86, vdso] BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at d34bd000 Stefani Seibold
2014-03-07 18:56   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-07 21:53     ` Stefani Seibold
2014-03-07 23:07       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-09  8:47         ` Stefani Seibold
2014-03-10  0:16           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-10  3:18             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-10  4:46               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-10 14:59                 ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                   ` <CA+55aFwKpBybz9S9A=+tcr1BbdzAbagL30Br2cak2GrdPH=hhA@mail.gmail.com>
2014-03-10 17:12                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-10 17:24                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-10 17:31                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-10 17:38                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-10 17:46                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-10 17:48                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-10 17:52                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-10 17:58                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-10 18:10                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-10 17:49                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-10 20:03                       ` Stefani Seibold [this message]
2014-03-10 20:06                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-10 20:19                           ` Linus Torvalds
2014-03-10 21:20                             ` Linus Torvalds
2014-03-10 21:43                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-10 21:51                               ` Dave Jones
2014-03-10 22:59                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-10 23:32                                   ` [PATCH] x86: Remove CONFIG_X86_OOSTORE Dave Jones
2014-03-11 10:11                               ` [x86, vdso] BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at d34bd000 Ingo Molnar
2014-03-10 21:25                             ` stefani
2014-03-10 21:39                               ` Linus Torvalds
2014-03-10 21:53                                 ` stefani
2014-03-10 22:03                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-10 22:36                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-10 23:02                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-10 21:29                           ` stefani
2014-03-11  6:02                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-07  8:47 ` Stefani Seibold
2014-03-07  9:15   ` Fengguang Wu
2014-03-07  9:57     ` Stefani Seibold
2014-03-07 10:21       ` Fengguang Wu
2014-03-07 16:06         ` Stefani Seibold
2014-03-07 23:12           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-07 10:36       ` Fengguang Wu
2014-03-07 23:44       ` Fengguang Wu
2014-03-09  8:08         ` Stefani Seibold
2014-03-10  0:00           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-10 19:41             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman

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