From: Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Preeti U Murthy <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
mingo@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
daniel.lezcano@linaro.org, alex.shi@linaro.org, efault@gmx.de,
vincent.guittot@linaro.org, morten.rasmussen@arm.com,
aswin@hp.com, chegu_vinod@hp.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] sched, balancing: Update rq->max_idle_balance_cost whenever newidle balance is attempted
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 15:18:37 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1398377917.3509.32.camel@j-VirtualBox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140424171453.GZ11096@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Thu, 2014-04-24 at 19:14 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 09:53:37AM -0700, Jason Low wrote:
> >
> > So I thought that the original rationale (commit 1bd77f2d) behind
> > updating rq->next_balance in idle_balance() is that, if we are going
> > idle (!pulled_task), we want to ensure that the next_balance gets
> > calculated without the busy_factor.
> >
> > If the rq is busy, then rq->next_balance gets updated based on
> > sd->interval * busy_factor. However, when the rq goes from "busy"
> > to idle, rq->next_balance might still have been calculated under
> > the assumption that the rq is busy. Thus, if we are going idle, we
> > would then properly update next_balance without the busy factor
> > if we update when !pulled_task.
> >
>
> Its late here and I'm confused!
>
> So the for_each_domain() loop calculates a new next_balance based on
> ->balance_interval (which has that busy_factor on, right).
>
> But if it fails to pull anything, we'll (potentially) iterate the entire
> tree up to the largest domain; and supposedly set next_balanced to the
> largest possible interval.
>
> So when we go from busy to idle (!pulled_task), we actually set
> ->next_balance to the longest interval. Whereas the commit you
> referenced says it sets it to a shorter while.
>
> Not seeing it.
So this is the way I understand that code:
In rebalance_domain, next_balance is suppose to be set to the
minimum of all sd->last_balance + interval so that we properly call
into rebalance_domains() if one of the domains is due for a balance.
In the domain traversals:
if (time_after(next_balance, sd->last_balance + interval))
next_balance = sd->last_balance + interval;
we update next_balance to a new value if the current next_balance
is after, and we only update next_balance to a smaller value.
In rebalance_domains, we have code:
interval = sd->balance_interval;
if (idle != CPU_IDLE)
interval *= sd->busy_factor;
...
if (time_after(next_balance, sd->last_balance + interval)) {
next_balance = sd->last_balance + interval;
...
rq->next_balance = next_balance;
In the CPU_IDLE case, interval would not include the busy factor,
whereas in the !CPU_IDLE case, we multiply the interval by the
sd->busy_factor.
So as an example, if a CPU is not idle and we run this:
rebalance_domain()
interval = 1 ms;
if (idle != CPU_IDLE)
interval *= 64;
next_balance = sd->last_balance + 64 ms
rq->next_balance = next_balance
The rq->next_balance is set to a large value since the CPU is not idle.
Then, let's say the CPU then goes idle 1 ms later. The
rq->next_balance can be up to 63 ms later, because we computed
it when the CPU is not idle. Now that we are going idle,
we would have to wait a long time for the next balance.
So I believe that the initial reason why rq->next_balance was
updated in idle_balance is that if the CPU is in the process
of going idle (!pulled_task in idle_balance()), we can reset the
rq->next_balance based on the interval = 1 ms, as oppose to
having it remain up to 64 ms later (in idle_balance(), interval
doesn't get multiplied by sd->busy_factor).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-04-24 22:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-04-24 1:30 [PATCH 0/3] sched: Idle balance patches Jason Low
2014-04-24 1:30 ` [PATCH 1/3] sched, balancing: Update rq->max_idle_balance_cost whenever newidle balance is attempted Jason Low
2014-04-24 10:14 ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-04-24 12:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-24 12:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-24 16:53 ` Jason Low
2014-04-24 17:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-24 17:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-24 22:18 ` Jason Low [this message]
2014-04-25 5:12 ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-04-25 7:13 ` Jason Low
2014-04-25 7:58 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-04-25 17:03 ` Jason Low
2014-04-25 5:08 ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-04-25 9:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-25 19:54 ` Jason Low
2014-04-26 14:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-28 16:42 ` Jason Low
2014-04-27 8:31 ` Preeti Murthy
2014-04-28 9:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-29 3:10 ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-04-28 18:04 ` Jason Low
2014-04-29 3:52 ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-04-24 1:30 ` [PATCH 2/3] sched: Initialize newidle balance stats in sd_numa_init() Jason Low
2014-04-24 12:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-25 5:57 ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-05-08 10:42 ` [tip:sched/core] sched/numa: " tip-bot for Jason Low
2014-04-24 1:30 ` [PATCH 3/3] sched, fair: Stop searching for tasks in newidle balance if there are runnable tasks Jason Low
2014-04-24 2:51 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-04-24 8:28 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-04-24 16:37 ` Jason Low
2014-04-24 19:07 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-04-24 7:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-24 16:43 ` Jason Low
2014-04-24 16:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-25 1:24 ` Jason Low
2014-04-25 2:45 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-04-25 3:33 ` Jason Low
2014-04-25 5:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-04-24 16:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-24 10:30 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-04-24 11:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-24 14:08 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-04-24 14:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-08 10:44 ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: " tip-bot for Jason Low
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