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From: Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com>
To: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>
Cc: Preeti U Murthy <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	mingo@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	daniel.lezcano@linaro.org, alex.shi@linaro.org,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, morten.rasmussen@arm.com,
	aswin@hp.com, chegu_vinod@hp.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] sched, balancing: Update rq->max_idle_balance_cost whenever newidle balance is attempted
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 10:03:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1398445392.2102.4.camel@j-VirtualBox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1398412733.11930.56.camel@marge.simpson.net>

On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 09:58 +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 00:13 -0700, Jason Low wrote: 
> > On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 10:42 +0530, Preeti U Murthy wrote:
> > > I agree with this. However I am concerned with an additional point that
> > > I have mentioned in my reply to Peter's mail on this thread.
> > > 
> > > Should we verify if rq->next_balance update is independent of
> > > pulled_tasks? sd->balance_interval is changed during load_balance() and
> > > rq->next_balance should perhaps consider that?
> > 
> > Hi Preeti,
> > 
> > I agree that we may want to consider having rq->next balance update be
> > independent of pulled_task. As you mentioned, load_balance() can modify
> > the balance_interval.
> > 
> > There are a few things I'm wondering if we would need to also add then:
> > 
> > 1. In the case that this_rq->avg_idle < sysctl_sched_migration_cost, we
> >    would need to also traverse the domains to properly compute
> >    next_balance (without the sd->busy_factor) as we would be going idle.
> >    Otherwise, next_balance could get set to jiffies + HZ while the
> >    CPU goes idle.
> 
> Avoiding high frequency cache misses and cycle wastage on micro-idle was
> what avg-idle was about.  If you're going to traverse anyway, or have a
> better way to not do that too frequently, you can just nuke it.

Yeah, we already compare avg-idle with the per-domain costs in that
function. I'll run some performance tests with the first check removed,
as such a change can potentially have a (+/-) impact on performance.

Thanks,
Jason



  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-25 17:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-24  1:30 [PATCH 0/3] sched: Idle balance patches Jason Low
2014-04-24  1:30 ` [PATCH 1/3] sched, balancing: Update rq->max_idle_balance_cost whenever newidle balance is attempted Jason Low
2014-04-24 10:14   ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-04-24 12:04     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-24 12:44       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-24 16:53         ` Jason Low
2014-04-24 17:14           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-24 17:29             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-24 22:18             ` Jason Low
2014-04-25  5:12               ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-04-25  7:13                 ` Jason Low
2014-04-25  7:58                   ` Mike Galbraith
2014-04-25 17:03                     ` Jason Low [this message]
2014-04-25  5:08             ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-04-25  9:43               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-25 19:54                 ` Jason Low
2014-04-26 14:50                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-28 16:42                     ` Jason Low
2014-04-27  8:31                   ` Preeti Murthy
2014-04-28  9:24                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-29  3:10                       ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-04-28 18:04                     ` Jason Low
2014-04-29  3:52                       ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-04-24  1:30 ` [PATCH 2/3] sched: Initialize newidle balance stats in sd_numa_init() Jason Low
2014-04-24 12:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-25  5:57   ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-05-08 10:42   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/numa: " tip-bot for Jason Low
2014-04-24  1:30 ` [PATCH 3/3] sched, fair: Stop searching for tasks in newidle balance if there are runnable tasks Jason Low
2014-04-24  2:51   ` Mike Galbraith
2014-04-24  8:28     ` Mike Galbraith
2014-04-24 16:37     ` Jason Low
2014-04-24 19:07       ` Mike Galbraith
2014-04-24  7:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-24 16:43     ` Jason Low
2014-04-24 16:52       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-25  1:24         ` Jason Low
2014-04-25  2:45         ` Mike Galbraith
2014-04-25  3:33           ` Jason Low
2014-04-25  5:46             ` Mike Galbraith
2014-04-24 16:54       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-24 10:30   ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-04-24 11:32     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-24 14:08       ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-04-24 14:59         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-08 10:44   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: " tip-bot for Jason Low

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