From: Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com>
To: "Long, Wai Man" <waiman.long@hp.com>
Cc: Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
mingo@kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com, hpa@zytor.com, aswin@hp.com,
scott.norton@hp.com, chegu_vinod@hp.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/3] locking/mutex: Try to acquire mutex only if it is unlocked
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 14:48:03 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1402523283.4035.23.camel@j-VirtualBox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5398C35B.5080301@hp.com>
On Wed, 2014-06-11 at 17:00 -0400, Long, Wai Man wrote:
> On 6/9/2014 1:38 PM, Jason Low wrote:
> > On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 13:58 -0700, Davidlohr Bueso wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 13:57 -0700, Davidlohr Bueso wrote:
> >>> In addition, how about the following helpers instead:
> >>> - mutex_is_unlocked() : count > 0
> >>> - mutex_has_waiters() : count < 0, or list_empty(->wait_list)
> >> ^ err, that's !list_empty()
> > Between checking for (count < 0) or checking for !list_empty(wait_list)
> > for waiters:
> >
> > Now that I think about it, I would expect a mutex_has_waiters() function
> > to return !list_empty(wait_list) as that really tells whether or not
> > there are waiters. For example, in highly contended cases, there can
> > still be waiters on the mutex if count is 1.
> >
> > Likewise, in places where we currently use "MUTEX_SHOW_NO_WAITER", we
> > need to check for (count < 0) to ensure lock->count is a negative value
> > before the thread sleeps on the mutex.
> >
> > One option would be to still remove MUTEX_SHOW_NO_WAITER(), directly use
> > atomic_read() in place of the macro, and just comment on why we have an
> > extra atomic_read() that may "appear redundant". Another option could be
> > to provide a function that checks for "potential waiters" on the mutex.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
>
> For the first MUTEX_SHOW_NO_WAITER() call site, you can replace it with
> a check for (count > 0).
Yup, in my v2 patch, the first call site becomes !mutex_is_locked(lock)
which is really a check for (count == 1).
> The second call site within the for loop,
> however, is a bit more tricky. It has to serve 2 purposes:
>
> 1. Opportunistically get the lock
> 2. Set the count value to -1 to indicate someone is waiting on the lock,
> that is why an xchg() operation has to be done even if its value is 0.
>
> I do agree that the naming isn't that good. Maybe it can be changed to
> something like
>
> static inline int mutex_value_has_waiters(mutex *lock) { return
> lock->count < 0; }
So I can imagine that a mutex_value_has_waiters() function might still
not be a great name, since the mutex can have waiters in the case that
the value lock->count >= 0.
In the second call site, do you think we should just do a direct
atomic_read(lock->count) >= 0 and comment that we only do the xchg if
the count is non-negative to avoid unnecessary xchg? That what I did in
my v2 patch.
Thanks,
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-06-11 21:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-06-04 19:08 [RFC PATCH 0/3] locking/mutex: Modifications to mutex Jason Low
2014-06-04 19:08 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] locking/mutex: Try to acquire mutex only if it is unlocked Jason Low
2014-06-04 19:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-04 20:57 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-06-04 20:58 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-06-09 17:38 ` Jason Low
2014-06-11 21:00 ` Long, Wai Man
2014-06-11 21:48 ` Jason Low [this message]
2014-06-12 1:25 ` Long, Wai Man
2014-06-04 21:53 ` Jason Low
2014-06-04 21:26 ` Jason Low
2014-06-04 21:54 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-04 22:13 ` Jason Low
2014-06-05 3:24 ` Waiman Long
2014-06-05 19:21 ` Jason Low
2014-06-04 19:08 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] locking/mutex: Correct documentation on mutex optimistic spinning Jason Low
2014-06-04 20:11 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-06-04 20:30 ` Jason Low
2014-06-04 19:08 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] locking/mutex: Optimize mutex trylock slowpath Jason Low
2014-06-04 20:28 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-06-04 21:47 ` Jason Low
2014-06-05 1:10 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-06-05 3:08 ` Jason Low
2014-06-04 20:13 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] locking/mutex: Modifications to mutex Davidlohr Bueso
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