From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.1 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C155AC43461 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 08:42:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84BD42080C for ; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 08:42:18 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="saOqAbec" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726358AbgIOImL (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Sep 2020 04:42:11 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:36832 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726324AbgIOIl7 (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Sep 2020 04:41:59 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-x341.google.com (mail-wm1-x341.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::341]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE4B5C06174A; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 01:41:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wm1-x341.google.com with SMTP id w2so2514111wmi.1; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 01:41:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mWxyaW6253KQoFu0UHMqhP8AMPbDHxMp498wfuHOKQs=; b=saOqAbectSltZwthpuw0WtmRLXNslq/6YA27xlyKH+Ylqo/uY6YiGQhcX5SylY598U /4pxJWKWaFw3E16XlejBDo9W7PkY7tFbRw18KcFD9PmJ3Xt4Zm7sS8CXDAddd9JRmQZu +KzPkW6YysKzbKlSB0tygqQY5IdFqBKsaYrZwCaNgqXMkAE43NqCWl6fKy3/GI2DwYBK otwIGXfzLFKdY6fNDul1WeGmGb+VXJWn+xfX+j8KU58hd9xe1uzWxBkxOissd7CRzYbz XETlbz4gt+x+Bncp6QksrENLbE/Ni2xAGMHPVdnKZPUI7JhPEDd9Tsx3viieTQ+mGDua B8Rw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mWxyaW6253KQoFu0UHMqhP8AMPbDHxMp498wfuHOKQs=; b=i4pf0lygxghF9BewKIvAZHt1IDuBpdy+trtrCvKx0mxA/v7p7nXMqKpUkoWbLE9VBh EPNZjHNaJTr6LrJMMZQVQv6/Wok7Y/4h7TakpWhxtrBRpX83WNzzULbmdkyq13It9idh Mrw3UUnwhlj8M5IitAx0ylliQ8obEyvrADN4FIoOhTtDCBfva5EPQnHVS6cMUhWVSoR/ 7rtOD13mhbitl1er+QVYKPWIcRj9kvzE0uQRK1ymFLh79/JNnFchhOLqPgdk+3GTcsJO DybwNnHc2m4F4ge8Sc6uo2PZNDk8ZwwcCwasR4sW/fYlrKxczWDFj3qIQ9UjYEHFMYHR 7k7g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532VE5a6nr0NTnsx3qZY0y45rA2hz0tXOoiOvRe3rmfq2D73DksB mZEocYHu2BupFGPlepf9QeDgNowigPCY1w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw7fbniVY5pujFTy+9h14GxGq4rfw+vU0pN0UCtS1Q/6Sb6mViWzSz+ImsOlxBwh6Dn15tWTw== X-Received: by 2002:a7b:ca56:: with SMTP id m22mr3340434wml.12.1600159316177; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 01:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ziggy.stardust ([213.195.113.201]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k8sm23349010wma.16.2020.09.15.01.41.54 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 15 Sep 2020 01:41:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: make linux-mediatek list remarks consistent To: David Woodhouse , Lukas Bulwahn Cc: Ryder Lee , Bjorn Helgaas , linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org, Ralf Ramsauer , Pia Eichinger , Joe Perches , kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20200914053110.23286-1-lukas.bulwahn@gmail.com> <9c5aaa15-bdd8-ae4f-0642-092566ab08ba@gmail.com> <7da64c0975c345f1f45034410c9ed7d509ba9831.camel@infradead.org> From: Matthias Brugger Message-ID: <14193442-3b41-29f2-4380-e2cbcc00e5d4@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 10:41:54 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.12.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7da64c0975c345f1f45034410c9ed7d509ba9831.camel@infradead.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 14/09/2020 16:12, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Mon, 2020-09-14 at 16:01 +0200, Lukas Bulwahn wrote: >>>> I am not subscribed to linux-mediatek. When I sent an email to the list, >>>> it showed up really seconds later in the lore.kernel.org of the >>>> linux-mediatek public-inbox repository. So, either it was delivered >>>> quickly as it is not moderated or my check with lore.kernel.org is wrong, >>>> e.g., mails show up in the lore.kernel.org archive, even they were not >>>> yet permitted on the actual list. >>>> >>> >>> I'm the moderator and I get requests to moderate emails. I suppose I added you >>> to the accepted list because of earlier emails you send. >>> >> >> Okay, I see. I did send some clean-up patch in the past, but I completely >> forgot that, but my mailbox did not forget. So, now it is clear to me why >> that mail showed up so quickly. >> >> Thanks for the explanation. > > AFAICT the linux-mediatek list isn't configured to automatically > moderate messages from non-subscribers. Its generic_nonmember_action > setting is 'Accept'. That is the default setting for lists on > infradead.org and I strongly encourage list maintainers to leave it > that way. Ok, thanks for clarification. I never bothered too much with all the configuration option of the list. :| > > Lukas, I don't see your address in the allowlist either. I tried to find that in the web interface, but wasn't able to find the list. Regards, Matthias > > There are other reasons why some messages get might trapped for > moderation — the message size, number of recipients, spam score, etc. > > The mere fact that *some* messages are moderated does not mean that the > list is "moderated for non-subscribers" in the sense that the > MAINTAINERS file lists. > >> Bjorn, with that confirmation and Reviewed-by from Matthias, could you >> please pick this patch? > > I think we should be fixing the ones that *do* say it's moderated for > non-subscribers, not the one that correctly didn't :) >