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From: Cyril Bur <cyrilbur@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mpe@ellerman.id.au,
	drjones@redhat.com, dzickus@redhat.com, mingo@kernel.org,
	uobergfe@redhat.com, chaiw.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com, cl@linu.com,
	fabf@skynet.be, atomlin@redhat.com, benzh@chromium.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Quieten softlockup detector on virtualised kernels
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 13:43:40 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1420512220.2910.39.camel@cyril> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150105140950.9ef64425359c62475b48733d@linux-foundation.org>

On Mon, 2015-01-05 at 14:09 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 16:06:02 +1100 Cyril Bur <cyrilbur@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > When the hypervisor pauses a virtualised kernel the kernel will observe a jump
> > in timebase, this can cause spurious messages from the softlockup detector.
> > 
> > Whilst these messages are harmless, they are accompanied with a stack trace
> > which causes undue concern and more problematically the stack trace in the
> > guest has nothing to do with the observed problem and can only be misleading.
> > 
> > Futhermore, on POWER8 this is completely avoidable with the introduction of
> > the Virtual Time Base (VTB) register.
> 
> Does this problem apply to other KVM implementations and to Xen?  If
> so, what would implementations of running_clock() for those look like? 
> If not, why not?
Yes the problem should appear on other KVM implementations, not really
sure about Xen but I don't see why the problem wouldn't crop up.

x86 do have a method for dealing with it in the softlockup detector,
they've added a check in the softlockup using a paravirtualised clock
where the guest can discover if it had been paused, Xen could be using
too.
It doesn't appear s390 do anything.

Thanks,

Cyril
> 
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-06  2:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-22  5:06 [PATCH 0/2] Quieten softlockup detector on virtualised kernels Cyril Bur
2014-12-22  5:06 ` [PATCH 1/2] Add another clock for use with the soft lockup watchdog Cyril Bur
2015-01-05 22:09   ` Andrew Morton
2014-12-22  5:06 ` [PATCH 2/2] powerpc: add running_clock for powerpc to prevent spurious softlockup warnings Cyril Bur
2015-01-05 22:10   ` Andrew Morton
2015-01-06  2:44     ` Cyril Bur
2015-01-07 10:20       ` Martin Schwidefsky
2015-01-09  3:22         ` Cyril Bur
2015-01-05 16:50 ` [PATCH 0/2] Quieten softlockup detector on virtualised kernels Don Zickus
2015-01-05 23:53   ` Cyril Bur
2015-01-06 15:01     ` Don Zickus
2015-01-09  3:15       ` Cyril Bur
2015-01-09 14:56         ` Don Zickus
2015-01-05 22:09 ` Andrew Morton
2015-01-06  2:43   ` Cyril Bur [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-12-01  2:38 Cyril Bur

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