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From: Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@parallels.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] sched, x86: Prevent resched interrupts if task in kernel mode and !CONFIG_PREEMPT
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 14:58:33 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1422273513.6345.29.camel@tkhai> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrWFZ94LxPA2X1OROVAbcossdUgFEWATbfbR3ogqNxARsw@mail.gmail.com>

В Пт, 23/01/2015 в 18:36 -0800, Andy Lutomirski пишет:
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@parallels.com> wrote:
> > В Пт, 23/01/2015 в 08:24 -0800, Andy Lutomirski пишет:
> >> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 8:07 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >> > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 06:53:32PM +0300, Kirill Tkhai wrote:
> >> >> ---
> >> >>  arch/x86/kernel/entry_64.S |   10 ++++++++++
> >> >>  1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)
> >> >>
> >> >> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/entry_64.S b/arch/x86/kernel/entry_64.S
> >> >> index c653dc4..a046ba8 100644
> >> >> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/entry_64.S
> >> >> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/entry_64.S
> >> >> @@ -409,6 +409,13 @@ GLOBAL(system_call_after_swapgs)
> >> >>       movq_cfi rax,(ORIG_RAX-ARGOFFSET)
> >> >>       movq  %rcx,RIP-ARGOFFSET(%rsp)
> >> >>       CFI_REL_OFFSET rip,RIP-ARGOFFSET
> >> >> +#if !defined(CONFIG_PREEMPT) || !defined(SMP)
> >> >> +     /*
> >> >> +      * Tell resched_curr() do not send useless interrupts to us.
> >> >> +      * Kernel isn't preemptible till sysret_careful() anyway.
> >> >> +      */
> >> >> +     LOCK ; bts $TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG,TI_flags+THREAD_INFO(%rsp,RIP-ARGOFFSET)
> >> >> +#endif
> >>
> >> That's kind of expensive.  What's the !SMP part for?
> >
> > smp_send_reschedule() is NOP on UP. There is no problem.
> 
> Shouldn't it be #if !defined(CONFIG_PREEMPT) && defined(CONFIG_SMP) then?

Definitely, thanks.

> 
> >
> >>
> >> >>       testl $_TIF_WORK_SYSCALL_ENTRY,TI_flags+THREAD_INFO(%rsp,RIP-ARGOFFSET)
> >> >>       jnz tracesys
> >> >>  system_call_fastpath:
> >> >> @@ -427,6 +434,9 @@ GLOBAL(system_call_after_swapgs)
> >> >>   * Has incomplete stack frame and undefined top of stack.
> >> >>   */
> >> >>  ret_from_sys_call:
> >> >> +#if !defined(CONFIG_PREEMPT) || !defined(SMP)
> >> >> +     LOCK ; btr $TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG,TI_flags+THREAD_INFO(%rsp,RIP-ARGOFFSET)
> >> >> +#endif
> >>
> >> If only it were this simple.  There are lots of ways out of syscalls,
> >> and this is only one of them :(  If we did this, I'd rather do it
> >> through the do_notify_resume mechanism or something.
> >
> > Yes, syscall is the only thing I did as an example.
> >
> >> I don't see any way to do this without at least one atomic op or
> >> smp_mb per syscall, and that's kind of expensive.
> >
> > JFI, doesn't x86 set_bit() lock a small area of memory? I thought
> > it's not very expensive on this arch (some bus optimizations or
> > something like this).
> 
> An entire syscall on x86 is well under 200 cycles.  lock addl is >20
> cycles for me, and I don't see why the atomic bitops would be faster.
> (Oddly, mfence is slower than lock addl, which is really odd, since
> lock addl implies mfence.)  So this overhead may actually matter.

Yeah, it's really big overhead.

> >
> >> Would it make sense to try to use context tracking instead?  On
> >> systems that use context tracking, syscalls are already expensive, and
> >> we're already keeping track of which CPUs are in user mode.
> >
> > I'll look at context_tracking, but I'm not sure some smp synchronization
> > there.
> 
> It could be combinable with existing synchronization there.

I'll look at this. Thanks!

Kirill


  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-26 11:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-23 15:53 [RFC] sched, x86: Prevent resched interrupts if task in kernel mode and !CONFIG_PREEMPT Kirill Tkhai
2015-01-23 16:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-23 16:24   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-23 17:09     ` Kirill Tkhai
2015-01-24  2:36       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-26 11:58         ` Kirill Tkhai [this message]
2015-02-03 17:14           ` Kirill Tkhai

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