From: Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@parallels.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] sched, x86: Prevent resched interrupts if task in kernel mode and !CONFIG_PREEMPT
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 20:14:53 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1422983693.18770.8.camel@tkhai> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1422273513.6345.29.camel@tkhai>
В Пн, 26/01/2015 в 14:58 +0300, Kirill Tkhai пишет:
> В Пт, 23/01/2015 в 18:36 -0800, Andy Lutomirski пишет:
> > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@parallels.com> wrote:
> > > В Пт, 23/01/2015 в 08:24 -0800, Andy Lutomirski пишет:
> > >> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 8:07 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > >> > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 06:53:32PM +0300, Kirill Tkhai wrote:
> > >> >> ---
> > >> >> arch/x86/kernel/entry_64.S | 10 ++++++++++
> > >> >> 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)
> > >> >>
> > >> >> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/entry_64.S b/arch/x86/kernel/entry_64.S
> > >> >> index c653dc4..a046ba8 100644
> > >> >> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/entry_64.S
> > >> >> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/entry_64.S
> > >> >> @@ -409,6 +409,13 @@ GLOBAL(system_call_after_swapgs)
> > >> >> movq_cfi rax,(ORIG_RAX-ARGOFFSET)
> > >> >> movq %rcx,RIP-ARGOFFSET(%rsp)
> > >> >> CFI_REL_OFFSET rip,RIP-ARGOFFSET
> > >> >> +#if !defined(CONFIG_PREEMPT) || !defined(SMP)
> > >> >> + /*
> > >> >> + * Tell resched_curr() do not send useless interrupts to us.
> > >> >> + * Kernel isn't preemptible till sysret_careful() anyway.
> > >> >> + */
> > >> >> + LOCK ; bts $TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG,TI_flags+THREAD_INFO(%rsp,RIP-ARGOFFSET)
> > >> >> +#endif
> > >>
> > >> That's kind of expensive. What's the !SMP part for?
> > >
> > > smp_send_reschedule() is NOP on UP. There is no problem.
> >
> > Shouldn't it be #if !defined(CONFIG_PREEMPT) && defined(CONFIG_SMP) then?
>
> Definitely, thanks.
>
> >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> >> testl $_TIF_WORK_SYSCALL_ENTRY,TI_flags+THREAD_INFO(%rsp,RIP-ARGOFFSET)
> > >> >> jnz tracesys
> > >> >> system_call_fastpath:
> > >> >> @@ -427,6 +434,9 @@ GLOBAL(system_call_after_swapgs)
> > >> >> * Has incomplete stack frame and undefined top of stack.
> > >> >> */
> > >> >> ret_from_sys_call:
> > >> >> +#if !defined(CONFIG_PREEMPT) || !defined(SMP)
> > >> >> + LOCK ; btr $TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG,TI_flags+THREAD_INFO(%rsp,RIP-ARGOFFSET)
> > >> >> +#endif
> > >>
> > >> If only it were this simple. There are lots of ways out of syscalls,
> > >> and this is only one of them :( If we did this, I'd rather do it
> > >> through the do_notify_resume mechanism or something.
> > >
> > > Yes, syscall is the only thing I did as an example.
> > >
> > >> I don't see any way to do this without at least one atomic op or
> > >> smp_mb per syscall, and that's kind of expensive.
> > >
> > > JFI, doesn't x86 set_bit() lock a small area of memory? I thought
> > > it's not very expensive on this arch (some bus optimizations or
> > > something like this).
> >
> > An entire syscall on x86 is well under 200 cycles. lock addl is >20
> > cycles for me, and I don't see why the atomic bitops would be faster.
> > (Oddly, mfence is slower than lock addl, which is really odd, since
> > lock addl implies mfence.) So this overhead may actually matter.
>
> Yeah, it's really big overhead.
>
> > >
> > >> Would it make sense to try to use context tracking instead? On
> > >> systems that use context tracking, syscalls are already expensive, and
> > >> we're already keeping track of which CPUs are in user mode.
> > >
> > > I'll look at context_tracking, but I'm not sure some smp synchronization
> > > there.
> >
> > It could be combinable with existing synchronization there.
>
> I'll look at this. Thanks!
Сontinuing the theme. I've tried the idea with RCU. Fast & dirty patch
which prevents unnecessary interrupts.
It prevents 2% of reschedule IPIs. The cost is atomic_read() in
resched_curr(). It looks like the profit is not too much...
Kirill
prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-03 17:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-23 15:53 [RFC] sched, x86: Prevent resched interrupts if task in kernel mode and !CONFIG_PREEMPT Kirill Tkhai
2015-01-23 16:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-23 16:24 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-23 17:09 ` Kirill Tkhai
2015-01-24 2:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-26 11:58 ` Kirill Tkhai
2015-02-03 17:14 ` Kirill Tkhai [this message]
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