From: Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com>
To: Ming Lei <ming.lei@canonical.com>
Cc: Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Dave Jones <davej@codemonkey.org.uk>,
jason.low2@hp.com
Subject: Re: softlockups in multi_cpu_stop
Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2015 19:53:02 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1425700382.2475.347.camel@j-VirtualBox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACVXFVMA9Gfv-NA3DOtYGv5RWsuxCuKRGPAke22vaza=sb9-+Q@mail.gmail.com>
On Sat, 2015-03-07 at 11:39 +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 2015-03-07 at 11:08 +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> >> On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com> wrote:
> >> > On Sat, 2015-03-07 at 10:10 +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net> wrote:
> >> >> > On Sat, 2015-03-07 at 09:55 +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> >> >> >> On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 14:15:37 -0800
> >> >> >> Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Fri, 2015-03-06 at 13:12 -0800, Jason Low wrote:
> >> >> >> > > In owner_running() there are 2 conditions that would make it return
> >> >> >> > > false: if the owner changed or if the owner is not running. However,
> >> >> >> > > that patch continues spinning if there is a "new owner" but it does not
> >> >> >> > > take into account that we may want to stop spinning if the owner is not
> >> >> >> > > running (due to getting rescheduled).
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > So you're rationale is that we're missing this need_resched:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > while (owner_running(sem, owner)) {
> >> >> >> > /* abort spinning when need_resched */
> >> >> >> > if (need_resched()) {
> >> >> >> > rcu_read_unlock();
> >> >> >> > return false;
> >> >> >> > }
> >> >> >> > }
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Because the owner_running() would return false, right? Yeah that makes
> >> >> >> > sense, as missing a resched is a bug, as opposed to our heuristics being
> >> >> >> > so painfully off.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Sasha, Ming (Cc'ed), does this address the issues you guys are seeing?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> For the xfstest lockup, what matters is that the owner isn't running, since
> >> >> >> the following simple change does fix the issue:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I much prefer Jason's approach, which should also take care of the
> >> >> > issue, as it includes the !owner->on_cpu stop condition to stop
> >> >> > spinning.
> >> >>
> >> >> But the check on owner->on_cpu should be moved outside the loop
> >> >> because new owner can be scheduled out too, right?
> >> >
> >> > We should keep the owner->on_cpu check inside the loop, otherwise we
> >> > could continue spinning if the owner is not running.
> >>
> >> So how about checking in this way outside the loop for avoiding the spin?
> >>
> >> if (owner)
> >> return owner->on_cpu;
> >
> > So these owner->on_cpu checks outside of the loop "fixes" the issue as
> > well, but I don't see the benefit of needing to guess why we break out
> > of the spin loop (which may make things less readable) and checking
> > owner->on_cpu duplicate times when one check is enough.
>
> I mean moving the check on owner->on_cpu outside loop, so there is
> only one check for both new and old owner. If it is inside loop,
> the check is only on old owner.
>
> That is correct to keep it inside loop if you guys are sure new
> owner can't be scheduled out, but better to add comment why
> it can't, looks no one explained yet.
The new owner can get rescheduled.
And if there's a new owner, then the spinner goes to
rwsem_spin_on_owner() again and checks the new owner's on_cpu.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-03-07 3:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-03-02 7:45 sched: softlockups in multi_cpu_stop Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <CAMiJ5CVWvUhGK=MWYB_CTNs901p=jsT4i5gkWTaHih7qdQdkFQ@mail.gmail.com>
2015-03-04 5:44 ` Rafael David Tinoco
2015-03-06 11:27 ` Sasha Levin
2015-03-06 12:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-06 14:34 ` Rafael David Tinoco
2015-03-06 14:45 ` Sasha Levin
2015-03-06 15:46 ` Sasha Levin
2015-03-06 17:19 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-03-06 18:02 ` Sasha Levin
2015-03-06 21:59 ` Sasha Levin
2015-03-06 18:57 ` Jason Low
2015-03-06 19:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-06 19:20 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-03-06 19:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-06 19:45 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-03-06 19:55 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-03-06 20:00 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-03-06 21:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-06 19:29 ` Jason Low
2015-03-06 21:12 ` Jason Low
2015-03-06 21:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-07 1:53 ` Jason Low
2015-03-06 22:15 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-03-07 1:55 ` Ming Lei
2015-03-07 2:07 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-03-07 2:10 ` Ming Lei
2015-03-07 2:26 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-03-07 2:29 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-03-07 2:55 ` Ming Lei
2015-03-07 3:10 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-03-07 3:19 ` Ming Lei
2015-03-07 3:41 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-03-07 2:56 ` Jason Low
2015-03-07 3:08 ` Ming Lei
2015-03-07 3:10 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-03-07 3:17 ` Jason Low
2015-03-07 3:39 ` Ming Lei
2015-03-07 3:53 ` Jason Low [this message]
2015-03-07 1:58 ` Jason Low
2015-03-07 4:31 ` Jason Low
2015-03-07 4:44 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-03-07 6:45 ` Jason Low
2015-03-07 5:54 ` Ming Lei
2015-03-07 6:57 ` Jason Low
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