From: Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Preeti U Murthy <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
hideaki.kimura@hp.com, Aswin Chandramouleeswaran <aswin@hp.com>,
Scott J Norton <scott.norton@hp.com>,
jason.low2@hp.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] sched, timer: Use atomics for thread_group_cputimer to improve scalability
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 13:04:47 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1429128287.7039.145.camel@j-VirtualBox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150415133211.GP23123@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Wed, 2015-04-15 at 15:32 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 03:25:36PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 04:09:45PM -0700, Jason Low wrote:
> > > void thread_group_cputimer(struct task_struct *tsk, struct task_cputime *times)
> > > {
> > > struct thread_group_cputimer *cputimer = &tsk->signal->cputimer;
> > > struct task_cputime sum;
> > >
> > > if (!cputimer->running) {
> > > /*
> > > * The POSIX timer interface allows for absolute time expiry
> > > * values through the TIMER_ABSTIME flag, therefore we have
> > > + * to synchronize the timer to the clock every time we start it.
> > > */
> > > thread_group_cputime(tsk, &sum);
> > > + update_gt_cputime(cputimer, &sum);
> > > + /* Start 'running' after update_gt_cputime() */
> > > + smp_store_release(&cputimer->running, 1);
> >
> > This barrier should be mirrored somewhere but I can't see where in this patch.
> > Maybe in another one in the series. Or maybe there is already a barrier in the
> > existing code that I'm missing. I would expect to see it in account_group_*_time().
> > In any case, there should be comment about what it mirrors.
>
> I think it should be in cputimer_running(), which should use
> smp_load_acquire() to read cputimer->running.
>
> That way you guarantee that everything observing 'running' will indeed
> observe the initialized state.
So I intended the smp_store_release() here to be mainly for
documentation purposes, to say that we would like to set running after
the update.
With patch 3/3, even if running happens to get set earlier, the worst
case scenario is that update_gt_cputime may have to do go through some
retry logic. This isn't much of a performance issue in practice
(especially compared to adding smp_load_acquire() to hot paths), since
we only enter this path when we need to enable the timers.
In that case, I'm wondering if should just convert this back to
WRITE_ONCE(cputimer->running, 1) and avoid adding barriers to the hot
paths?
Thanks,
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-04-15 20:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-14 23:09 [PATCH 0/3] sched, timer: Improve scalability of itimers Jason Low
2015-04-14 23:09 ` [PATCH 1/3] sched, timer: Remove usages of ACCESS_ONCE in the scheduler Jason Low
2015-04-14 23:59 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-15 2:12 ` Jason Low
2015-04-15 2:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-15 7:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-15 18:49 ` Jason Low
2015-04-15 19:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-16 2:46 ` Jason Low
2015-04-16 16:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-16 18:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-16 18:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-16 18:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-16 19:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-16 19:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-17 3:25 ` Jason Low
2015-04-17 8:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-16 21:00 ` Jason Low
2015-04-16 2:29 ` Jason Low
2015-04-16 2:37 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-14 23:09 ` [PATCH 2/3] sched, timer: Use atomics for thread_group_cputimer to improve scalability Jason Low
2015-04-15 7:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-15 7:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-15 17:14 ` Jason Low
2015-04-15 10:37 ` Preeti U Murthy
2015-04-15 19:09 ` Jason Low
2015-04-15 13:25 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-04-15 13:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-15 20:04 ` Jason Low [this message]
2015-04-15 14:23 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-04-15 21:15 ` Jason Low
2015-04-14 23:09 ` [PATCH 3/3] sched, timer: Use cmpxchg to do updates in update_gt_cputime() Jason Low
2015-04-14 23:53 ` [PATCH 0/3] sched, timer: Improve scalability of itimers Linus Torvalds
2015-04-15 7:24 ` Ingo Molnar
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