From: Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>
To: Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>
Cc: "ira.weiny" <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
Michael Wang <yun.wang@profitbricks.com>,
Liran Liss <liranl@mellanox.com>,
Roland Dreier <roland@kernel.org>,
Sean Hefty <sean.hefty@intel.com>,
Hal Rosenstock <hal@dev.mellanox.co.il>,
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Tom Tucker <tom@opengridcomputing.com>,
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"raisch@de.ibm.com" <raisch@de.ibm.com>,
Mike Marciniszyn <infinipath@intel.com>,
Eli Cohen <eli@mellanox.com>,
Faisal Latif <faisal.latif@intel.com>,
Jack Morgenstein <jackm@dev.mellanox.co.il>,
Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz@mellanox.com>,
Haggai Eran <haggaie@mellanox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 01/26] IB/Verbs: Implement new callback query_transport()
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:36:00 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1430181360.44548.35.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <553ED159.2090006@talpey.com>
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On Mon, 2015-04-27 at 17:16 -0700, Tom Talpey wrote:
> On 4/27/2015 2:52 PM, ira.weiny wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 09:39:05AM +0200, Michael Wang wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 04/24/2015 05:12 PM, Liran Liss wrote:
> >>>> From: linux-rdma-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-rdma-
> >>>>
> >>> [snip]
> >>>> a/include/rdma/ib_verbs.h b/include/rdma/ib_verbs.h index
> >>>> 65994a1..d54f91e 100644
> >>>> --- a/include/rdma/ib_verbs.h
> >>>> +++ b/include/rdma/ib_verbs.h
> >>>> @@ -75,10 +75,13 @@ enum rdma_node_type { };
> >>>>
> >>>> enum rdma_transport_type {
> >>>> + /* legacy for users */
> >>>> RDMA_TRANSPORT_IB,
> >>>> RDMA_TRANSPORT_IWARP,
> >>>> RDMA_TRANSPORT_USNIC,
> >>>> - RDMA_TRANSPORT_USNIC_UDP
> >>>> + RDMA_TRANSPORT_USNIC_UDP,
> >>>> + /* new transport */
> >>>> + RDMA_TRANSPORT_IBOE,
> >>>
> >>> Remove RDMA_TRANSPORT_IBOE - it is not a transport.
> >>> ROCE uses IBTA transport.
> >>>
> >>> If any code should test for ROCE should invoke a specific helper, e.g., rdma_protocol_iboe().
> >>> This is what you currently call "rdma_tech_iboe" is patch 02/26.
> >>>
> >>> I think that pretty much everybody agrees that rdma_protocol_*() is a better name than rdma_tech_*(), right?
> >>> So, let's change this.
> >>
> >> Sure, sounds reasonable now, about the IBOE, we still need it to
> >> separate the port support IB/ETH without the check on link-layer,
> >> So what about a new enum on protocol type?
> >>
> >> Like:
> >>
> >> enum rdma_protocol {
> >> RDMA_PROTOCOL_IB,
> >> RDMA_PROTOCOL_IBOE,
> >> RDMA_PROTOCOL_IWARP,
> >> RDMA_PROTOCOL_USNIC_UDP
> >> };
> >>
> >> So we could use query_protocol() to ask device provide the protocol
> >> type, and there will be no mixing with the legacy transport type
> >> anymore :-)
> >
> > I'm ok with that. I like introducing a unique namespace which is clearly
> > different from the previous "transport" one.
>
> I agree the word "transport" takes things into the weeds.
>
> But on the topic of naming protocols, I've been wondering, is there
> some reason that "IBOE" is being used instead of "RoCE"?
Because back in the day, when RoCE was accepted into the kernel, I'm
pretty sure it was prior to the IBTA's final stamp of approval and
before the name was set on RoCE, so IBoE was chosen upstream as the more
"correct" name because it properly denoted what it was deemed to truly
be: IB Verbs over Ethernet.
> The IBOE
> protocol used to exist and is not the same as the currently
> standardized RoCE, right?
I don't believe so. To my knowledge, there was never an IBoE except in
linux upstream parlance.
> Also wondering, why add "UDP" to USNIC, is there a different USNIC?
Yes, there are two transports, one a distinct ethertype and one that
encapsulates USNIC in UDP.
> Naming multiple layers together seems confusing and maybe in the end
> will create more code to deal with the differences. For example, what
> token will RoCEv2 take? RoCE_UDP, RoCE_v2 or ... ?
Uncertain as of now.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-04-28 0:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-24 12:23 [PATCH v6 00/26] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers Michael Wang
2015-04-24 12:23 ` [PATCH v6 01/26] IB/Verbs: Implement new callback query_transport() Michael Wang
2015-04-24 14:29 ` Tom Talpey
2015-04-24 14:35 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-24 14:46 ` Tom Talpey
2015-04-24 16:00 ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-24 15:12 ` Liran Liss
2015-04-27 7:39 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-27 21:52 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-28 0:16 ` Tom Talpey
2015-04-28 0:36 ` Doug Ledford [this message]
2015-04-28 0:53 ` Tom Talpey
2015-04-28 1:24 ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-28 1:49 ` Tom Talpey
2015-04-28 6:14 ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-28 19:50 ` Dave Goodell (dgoodell)
2015-04-28 19:53 ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-28 20:17 ` Dave Goodell (dgoodell)
2015-04-28 14:29 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-28 18:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-28 19:11 ` Or Gerlitz
2015-04-28 20:02 ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-28 20:03 ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-24 12:23 ` [PATCH v6 02/26] IB/Verbs: Implement raw management helpers Michael Wang
2015-04-24 15:15 ` Liran Liss
2015-04-24 16:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-27 7:41 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-24 12:23 ` [PATCH v6 03/26] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core mad/agent/user_mad Michael Wang
2015-04-24 12:23 ` [PATCH v6 04/26] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core cm Michael Wang
2015-04-24 12:23 ` [PATCH v6 05/26] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core sa_query Michael Wang
2015-04-24 12:23 ` [PATCH v6 06/26] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core multicast Michael Wang
2015-04-24 12:23 ` [PATCH v6 07/26] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-ulp ipoib Michael Wang
2015-04-24 12:23 ` [PATCH v6 08/26] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-ulp xprtrdma Michael Wang
2015-04-24 12:23 ` [PATCH v6 09/26] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core verbs Michael Wang
2015-04-24 12:23 ` [PATCH v6 10/26] IB/Verbs: Reform cm related part in IB-core cma/ucm Michael Wang
2015-04-24 12:23 ` [PATCH v6 11/26] IB/Verbs: Reform route related part in IB-core cma Michael Wang
2015-04-24 12:23 ` [PATCH v6 12/26] IB/Verbs: Reform mcast " Michael Wang
2015-04-24 12:23 ` [PATCH v6 13/26] IB/Verbs: Reserve legacy transport type in 'dev_addr' Michael Wang
2015-04-24 12:23 ` [PATCH v6 14/26] IB/Verbs: Reform cma_acquire_dev() Michael Wang
2015-04-24 12:23 ` [PATCH v6 15/26] IB/Verbs: Reform rest part in IB-core cma Michael Wang
2015-04-24 12:23 ` [PATCH v6 16/26] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_mad() Michael Wang
2015-04-24 12:23 ` [PATCH v6 17/26] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_smi() Michael Wang
2015-04-24 12:23 ` [PATCH v6 18/26] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_cm() Michael Wang
2015-04-24 12:23 ` [PATCH v6 19/26] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_iw_cm() Michael Wang
2015-04-24 12:23 ` [PATCH v6 20/26] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_sa() Michael Wang
2015-04-24 12:23 ` [PATCH v6 21/26] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_mcast() Michael Wang
2015-04-24 12:23 ` [PATCH v6 22/26] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_read_multi_sge() Michael Wang
2015-04-24 12:23 ` [PATCH v6 23/26] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_af_ib() Michael Wang
2015-04-24 12:23 ` [PATCH v6 24/26] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_eth_ah() Michael Wang
2015-04-24 12:23 ` [PATCH v6 25/26] IB/Verbs: Clean up rdma_ib_or_iboe() Michael Wang
2015-04-24 12:23 ` [PATCH v6 26/26] IB/Verbs: Cleanup rdma_node_get_transport() Michael Wang
2015-04-24 13:13 ` [PATCH v6 00/26] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers Michael Wang
2015-04-27 7:19 ` Devesh Sharma
2015-04-27 7:44 ` Michael Wang
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