From: Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com>
To: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Preeti U Murthy <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>,
Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
Aswin Chandramouleeswaran <aswin@hp.com>,
Scott J Norton <scott.norton@hp.com>,
jason.low2@hp.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] sched, numa: Document usages of mm->numa_scan_seq
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 14:13:07 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1430428387.2475.47.camel@j-VirtualBox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55427794.30808@hp.com>
On Thu, 2015-04-30 at 14:42 -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> I do have a question of what kind of tearing you are talking about. Do
> you mean the tearing due to mm being changed in the middle of the
> access? The reason why I don't like this kind of construct is that I am
> not sure if
> the address translation p->mm->numa_scan_seq is being done once or
> twice. I looked at the compiled code and the translation is done only once.
>
> Anyway, the purpose of READ_ONCE and WRITE_ONCE is not for eliminating
> data tearing. They are to make sure that the compiler won't compile away
> data access and they are done in the order they appear in the program. I
> don't think it is a good idea to associate tearing elimination with
> those macros. So I would suggest removing the last sentence in your comment.
Yes, I can remove the last sentence in the comment since the main goal
was to document that we're access this field without exclusive access.
In terms of data tearing, an example would be the write operation gets
split into multiple stores (though this is architecture dependent). The
idea was that since we're modifying a seq variable without the write
lock, we want to remove any forms of optimizations as mentioned above or
unpredictable behavior, since READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE adds no overhead.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-04-30 21:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-28 20:00 [PATCH v2 0/5] sched, timer: Improve scalability of itimers Jason Low
2015-04-28 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] sched, timer: Remove usages of ACCESS_ONCE in the scheduler Jason Low
2015-04-29 14:34 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-29 17:05 ` Waiman Long
2015-04-29 17:15 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-29 18:25 ` Jason Low
2015-05-08 13:22 ` [tip:sched/core] sched, timer: Convert usages of ACCESS_ONCE() in the scheduler to READ_ONCE()/WRITE_ONCE() tip-bot for Jason Low
2015-04-28 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] sched, numa: Document usages of mm->numa_scan_seq Jason Low
2015-04-29 14:35 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-29 18:14 ` Waiman Long
2015-04-29 18:45 ` Jason Low
2015-04-30 18:42 ` Waiman Long
2015-04-30 18:54 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-04-30 20:58 ` Waiman Long
2015-04-30 21:26 ` Jason Low
2015-04-30 21:13 ` Jason Low [this message]
2015-05-01 0:28 ` [PATCH v3 " Jason Low
2015-05-08 13:22 ` [tip:sched/core] sched/numa: " tip-bot for Jason Low
2015-05-01 15:21 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] sched, numa: " Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-01 17:40 ` Jason Low
2015-04-28 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] sched, timer: Use atomics in thread_group_cputimer to improve scalability Jason Low
2015-04-29 14:38 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-29 20:45 ` Jason Low
2015-04-29 18:43 ` Waiman Long
2015-04-29 20:14 ` Jason Low
2015-05-08 13:22 ` [tip:sched/core] sched, timer: Replace spinlocks with atomics in thread_group_cputimer(), " tip-bot for Jason Low
2015-05-08 21:31 ` [PATCH] sched, timer: Fix documentation for 'struct thread_group_cputimer' Jason Low
2015-05-11 6:41 ` [tip:sched/core] sched, timer: Fix documentation for ' struct thread_group_cputimer' tip-bot for Jason Low
2015-04-28 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] sched, timer: Provide an atomic task_cputime data structure Jason Low
2015-04-29 14:47 ` Rik van Riel
2015-05-08 13:22 ` [tip:sched/core] sched, timer: Provide an atomic ' struct task_cputime' " tip-bot for Jason Low
2015-04-28 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] sched, timer: Use the atomic task_cputime in thread_group_cputimer Jason Low
2015-04-29 14:48 ` Rik van Riel
2015-05-08 13:23 ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Jason Low
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