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From: Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	Debian kernel maintainers <debian-kernel@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm, memcg: Optionally disable memcg by default using Kconfig
Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 18:09:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1432055392.12412.34.camel@decadent.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150519151541.GJ6203@dhcp22.suse.cz>

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On Tue, 2015-05-19 at 17:15 +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> [Let's CC Ben here - the email thread has started here:
> http://marc.info/?l=linux-mm&m=143203206402073&w=2 and it seems Debian
> is disabling memcg controller already so this might be of your interest]
> 
> On Tue 19-05-15 15:43:45, Mel Gorman wrote:
> [...]
> > After I wrote the patch, I spotted that Debian apparently already
> > does something like this and by coincidence they matched the
> > parameter name and values. See the memory controller instructions on
> > https://wiki.debian.org/LXC#Prepare_the_host . So in this case at least
> > upstream would match something that at least one distro in the field
> > already uses.
> 
> I've read through
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=534964 and it seems
> that the primary motivation for the runtime disabling was the _memory_
> overhead of the struct page_cgroup
> (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=534964#152). This is
> no longer the case since 1306a85aed3e ("mm: embed the memcg pointer
> directly into struct page") merged in 3.19.
> 
> I can see some point in disabling the memcg due to runtime overhead.

I was also concerned about runtime overhead.

> There will always be some, albeit hard to notice. If an user really need
> this to happen there is a command line option for that. The question is
> who would do CONFIG_MEMCG && !MEMCG_DEFAULT_ENABLED.  Do you expect any
> distributions go that way?
> Ben, would you welcome such a change upstream or is there a reason to
> change the Debian kernel runtime default now that the memory overhead is
> mostly gone (for 3.19+ kernels of course)?

I have been meaning to reevaluate this as I know the overhead has been
reduced.  Given Mel's benchmark results, I favour keeping it disabled by
default in Debian.  So I would welcome this change.

Ben.

-- 
Ben Hutchings
I'm not a reverse psychological virus.  Please don't copy me into your sig.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-19 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-19 10:40 [PATCH] mm, memcg: Optionally disable memcg by default using Kconfig Mel Gorman
2015-05-19 14:18 ` Johannes Weiner
2015-05-19 14:43   ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-19 15:15     ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-19 17:09       ` Ben Hutchings [this message]
2015-05-19 14:53   ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-19 15:12     ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-05-19 15:13     ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-19 15:25       ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-05-19 16:14         ` Johannes Weiner
2015-05-19 15:27       ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-19 15:41         ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-19 16:04           ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-19 19:32             ` Mel Gorman

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