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From: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>
To: Yuyang Du <yuyang.du@intel.com>
Cc: Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Rabin Vincent <rabin.vincent@axis.com>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>, Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH?] Livelock in pick_next_task_fair() / idle_balance()
Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2015 06:42:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1435898552.6418.14.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150702184234.GC5197@intel.com>

On Fri, 2015-07-03 at 02:42 +0800, Yuyang Du wrote:

> But still, I think, even with the above, in idle balancing, pulling until the source
> rq's nr_running == 1 is not just "a short term fix", but should be there permanently
> acting like a last guard with no overhead, why not.

Yeah, seems so.  Searching for steal all samples...
(this is all with autogroup)

load_balance: idle - s_run: 0  d_run: 2 s_load: 0  d_load: 3  imb: 23  det_tasks: 2  det_load: 3  zeros: 1
load_balance: idle - s_run: 0  d_run: 2 s_load: 0  d_load: 0  imb: 32  det_tasks: 2  det_load: 0  zeros: 2
load_balance: idle - s_run: 0  d_run: 2 s_load: 0  d_load: 1  imb: 17  det_tasks: 2  det_load: 1  zeros: 1
load_balance: idle - s_run: 0  d_run: 2 s_load: 0  d_load: 37  imb: 22  det_tasks: 2  det_load: 37  zeros: 1
load_balance: idle - s_run: 0  d_run: 2 s_load: 0  d_load: 0  imb: 102  det_tasks: 2  det_load: 0  zeros: 2


load_balance: idle - s_run: 0  d_run: 1 s_load: 0  d_load: 93  imb: 47  det_tasks: 1  det_load: 93  zeros: 0
load_balance: idle - s_run: 0  d_run: 2 s_load: 0  d_load: 202  imb: 125  det_tasks: 2  det_load: 202  zeros: 0
load_balance: idle - s_run: 0  d_run: 2 s_load: 0  d_load: 243  imb: 188  det_tasks: 2  det_load: 243  zeros: 0
load_balance: idle - s_run: 0  d_run: 1 s_load: 0  d_load: 145  imb: 73  det_tasks: 1  det_load: 145  zeros: 0
load_balance: idle - s_run: 0  d_run: 1 s_load: 0  d_load: 46  imb: 24  det_tasks: 1  det_load: 46  zeros: 0

Both varieties of total pilferage (w/wo 0 load tasks involved) seem to
happen only during idle balance, never periodic (yet).

Oddity: make -j8 occasionally stacks/pulls piles of load=dinky.

homer:/sys/kernel/debug/tracing # for i in `seq 1 10`; do cat trace|grep "s_run: 1.*det_tasks: $i.*zeros: 0"|wc -l; done
71634
1567
79
15
1
3
0
2
3
0
homer:/sys/kernel/debug/tracing # cat trace|grep "s_run: 1.*det_tasks: 8.*zeros: 0"
          <idle>-0     [002] dNs.   594.973783: load_balance: norm - s_run: 1  d_run: 9 s_load: 67  d_load: 1110  imb: 86  det_tasks: 8  det_load: 86  zeros: 0
           <...>-10367 [007] d...  1456.477281: load_balance: idle - s_run: 1  d_run: 8 s_load: 805  d_load: 22  imb: 45  det_tasks: 8  det_load: 22  zeros: 0
homer:/sys/kernel/debug/tracing # cat trace|grep "s_run: 1.*det_tasks: 9.*zeros: 0"
           <...>-23317 [004] d...   486.677925: load_balance: idle - s_run: 1  d_run: 9 s_load: 888  d_load: 27  imb: 47  det_tasks: 9  det_load: 27  zeros: 0
           <...>-11485 [002] d...   573.411095: load_balance: idle - s_run: 1  d_run: 9 s_load: 124  d_load: 78  imb: 82  det_tasks: 9  det_load: 78  zeros: 0
           <...>-23286 [000] d...  1510.378740: load_balance: idle - s_run: 1  d_run: 9 s_load: 102  d_load: 58  imb: 63  det_tasks: 9  det_load: 58  zeros: 0


  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-03  4:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-30 14:30 [PATCH?] Livelock in pick_next_task_fair() / idle_balance() Rabin Vincent
2015-07-01  5:36 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-01 14:55   ` Rabin Vincent
2015-07-01 15:47     ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-01 20:44     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-01 23:25       ` Yuyang Du
2015-07-02  8:05         ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-02  1:05           ` Yuyang Du
2015-07-02 10:25             ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-02 11:40             ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-07-02 19:37               ` Yuyang Du
2015-07-03  9:34                 ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-07-03 16:38                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-05 22:31                     ` Yuyang Du
2015-07-09 14:32                       ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-07-09 23:24                         ` Yuyang Du
2015-07-05 20:12                   ` Yuyang Du
2015-07-06 17:36                     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-07-07 11:17                       ` Rabin Vincent
2015-07-13 17:43                         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-07-09 13:53                     ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-07-09 22:34                       ` Yuyang Du
2015-07-02 10:53         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-02 11:44           ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-07-02 18:42             ` Yuyang Du
2015-07-03  4:42               ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2015-07-03 16:39         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-05 22:11           ` Yuyang Du
2015-07-09  6:15             ` Stefan Ekenberg
2015-07-26 18:57             ` Yuyang Du
2015-08-03 17:05             ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Avoid pulling all tasks in idle balancing tip-bot for Yuyang Du

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