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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, adrian.hunter@intel.com,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>,
	Vince Weaver <vince@deater.net>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/6] perf: Introduce extended syscall error reporting
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:34:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1440495246.2192.13.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150825091740.GA23488@gmail.com> (sfid-20150825_111744_580370_78C27B08)

On Tue, 2015-08-25 at 11:17 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> If we do that then we don't even have to introduce per system call error code 
> conversion, but could unconditionally save the last extended error info in the 
> task struct and continue - this could be done very cheaply with the linker trick 
> driven integer ID.
> 
> I.e. system calls could opt in to do:
> 
> 	> return err_str(-EBUSY, "perf/x86: BTS conflicts with active events");
> 
> and the overhead of this would be minimal, we'd essentially do something like this 
> to save the error:
> 
> 	> current->err_code = code;
> 
> where 'code' is a build time constant in essence.
> 
> We could use this even in system calls where the error path is performance 
> critical, as all the string recovery and copying overhead would be triggered by 
> applications that opt in via the new system call:
> 
> 	> struct err_desc {
> 	>        const char              *message;
> 	>        const char              *owner;
> 	>        const int               code;
> 	> };
> 
> 	> SyS_err_get_desc(struct err_desc *err_desc __user);
> 
> [ Which could perhaps be a prctl() extension as well (PR_GET_ERR_DESC): finally 
>   some truly matching functionality for prctl(). ]
> 
> Hm?

That's neat in a way, but doesn't work in general I think.

Considering the wifi case, or more generally any netlink based
protocol, the syscall (sendmsg) won't return an error, but a subsequent
recvmsg() (which also won't return an error) returns an error message
[in the sense of a protocol message, not a human readable message] to a
buffer provided by the application.
However, this message can be extended relatively easily to include the
string information, but the syscall/prctl wouldn't work since the
syscalls didn't actually fail.

However, it could possibly help with the namespace/module issue if you
also store THIS_MODULE (or perhaps instead a pointer to the module's
error table) in the task. Again not in the netlink case though, I
think, that will always require special handling [although there it
could be stored away in the socket or so, similar to the task]

johannes

  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-25  9:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-24 14:32 [PATCH v2 0/6] perf: Introduce extended syscall error reporting Alexander Shishkin
2015-08-24 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] " Alexander Shishkin
2015-08-31 18:47   ` Andy Shevchenko
2015-09-01  6:38     ` Alexander Shishkin
2015-08-24 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] perf: Add file name and line number to perf extended error reports Alexander Shishkin
2015-08-24 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] perf: Annotate some of the error codes with perf_err() Alexander Shishkin
2015-08-24 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] perf/x86: " Alexander Shishkin
2015-08-24 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] perf/x86/intel/pt: Use extended error reporting in event initialization Alexander Shishkin
2015-08-24 14:33 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] perf/x86/intel/bts: " Alexander Shishkin
2015-08-25  8:22 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] perf: Introduce extended syscall error reporting Ingo Molnar
2015-08-25  8:52 ` Johannes Berg
2015-08-25  9:02   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-25  9:17     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-25  9:34       ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2015-08-25 10:07         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-25 10:19           ` Johannes Berg
2015-08-26  4:49             ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]               ` <CA+55aFw--OFczoY=v17+e2-Q3O0GXnMKRuwzpYpB2qKBpZo=fw@mail.gmail.com>
2015-08-26  7:02                 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-26  7:06                 ` Johannes Berg
2015-08-26  7:20                   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-26  7:26                     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-26 16:56                       ` Alexander Shishkin
2015-08-26 20:58                         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-09-11 16:11                           ` Alexander Shishkin
2015-08-26 18:41                       ` Andrew Morton
2015-08-26 20:05                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-26 20:22                           ` Andrew Morton
2015-08-26 20:50                             ` Vince Weaver
2015-08-26 20:56                               ` Andrew Morton
2015-08-26 21:14                                 ` Vince Weaver
2015-08-28 10:07                             ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-26 21:04                         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-08-26  7:36                     ` Johannes Berg
2015-08-26 11:37       ` Alexander Shishkin

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