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From: Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@mobileactivedefense.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Ying Xue <ying.xue@windriver.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	syzkaller <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>,
	Kostya Serebryany <kcc@google.com>,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: use-after-free in sock_wake_async
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 18:03:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1448557398.912656.450874953.4CA824F0@webmail.messagingengine.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1448553090.24696.71.camel@edumazet-glaptop2.roam.corp.google.com>

On Thu, Nov 26, 2015, at 16:51, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Thu, 2015-11-26 at 14:32 +0100, Hannes Frederic Sowa wrote:
> > Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org> writes:
> > 
> > 
> > > I have seen filesystems already doing so in .destroy_inode, that's why I
> > > am asking. The allocation happens the same way as we do with sock_alloc,
> > > e.g. shmem. I actually thought that struct inode already provides an
> > > rcu_head for exactly that reason.
> > 
> > E.g.:
> 
> > +static void sock_destroy_inode(struct inode *inode)
> > +{
> > +	call_rcu(&inode->i_rcu, sock_cache_free_rcu);
> > +}
> 
> I guess you missed few years back why we had to implement
> SLAB_DESTROY_BY_RCU for TCP sockets to not destroy performance.

I think I wasn't even subscribed to netdev@ at that time, so I probably
missed it. Few years back is 7. :}

> By adding RCU grace period before reuse of this inode (about 640 bytes
> today), you are asking the CPU to evict from its cache precious content,
> and slow down some workloads, adding lot of ram pressure, as the cpu
> allocating a TCP socket will have to populate its cache for a cold
> inode.

My rationale was like this: we already have rcu to free the wq, so we
don't add any more callbacks as current code. sock_alloc is right now
1136 bytes, which is huge, like 18 cachelines. I wouldn't think it does
matter a lot as we thrash anyway. tcp_sock is like 45 cachelines right
now, hui.

Also isn't the reason why slub exists so it can track memory regions
per-cpu.

Anyway, I am only speculating why it could be tried. I probably need to
do some performance experiments.

> The reason we put in a small object the RCU protected fields should be
> pretty clear.

Yes, I thought about that.

> Do not copy code that people wrote in other layers without understanding
> the performance implications.

Duuh. :)

Bye,
Hannes

  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-26 17:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-24 14:18 use-after-free in sock_wake_async Dmitry Vyukov
2015-11-24 15:21 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-24 15:39   ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-24 21:30   ` Jason Baron
2015-11-24 21:40     ` Al Viro
2015-11-24 21:45     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2015-11-24 22:03       ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-24 22:12         ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-24 23:34   ` Rainer Weikusat
2015-11-24 23:43     ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-25  1:10       ` Rainer Weikusat
2015-11-25  1:16         ` Rainer Weikusat
2015-11-25  1:18         ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-25  2:28           ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-25  5:43             ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-25 14:18               ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-25 16:43           ` Rainer Weikusat
2015-11-25 17:11             ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-25 17:30               ` Rainer Weikusat
2015-11-25 17:51                 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-25 18:24                   ` Rainer Weikusat
2015-11-25 18:39                     ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-25 19:38                       ` Rainer Weikusat
2015-11-25 19:50                         ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-25 20:23                           ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-25 20:57                             ` Rainer Weikusat
2015-11-25 22:09                               ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-25 22:32                                 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-11-25 22:43                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-25 22:52                                     ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-11-26 13:32                                       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-11-26 14:31                                         ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-11-26 15:51                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-26 17:03                                           ` Hannes Frederic Sowa [this message]
2015-11-26 17:09                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-26 17:15                                               ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-11-26 17:29                                             ` Eric Dumazet

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