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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com, serue@us.ibm.com, steved@redhat.com,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, Daire.Byrne@framestore.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] slow_work_thread() should do the exclusive wait
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:10:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <14561.1239873018@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090415162712.342d4c07.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> The patch itself is a little worrisome.  The wake-all semantics are
> very good at covering up little race bugs.  And switching to wake-once
> is a great way of exposing hitherto-unsuspected races.

It's something I'm intending to test, once I get MN10300 working again (which
for some reason it isn't).

> I wonder if slow_work_cull_timeout() should have some sort of barrier,
> so the write is suitably visible to the woken thread.

That's an interesting question.  Should wake_up() imply a barrier of any sort,
I wonder.  Well, __wake_up() does impose a barrier as it uses a spinlock, but
I wonder if that's sufficient.

> Bearing in mind that the thread might _already_ have been woken by someone
> else?

If the thread is woken by someone else, there must be work for it to do, in
which case it wouldn't be culled anyway.

> off-topic: afacit the code will cull a maximum of one thread per five
> seconds.  But the rate of thread _creation_ is, afacit, unbound.  Are
> there scenarios in which we can get a runaway thread count?

The maximum number of threads is limited (slow_work_max_threads).

David

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-16  9:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-13 18:17 [PATCH] slow_work_thread() should do the exclusive wait Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-13 19:03 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-04-13 19:14   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-13 21:40   ` David Howells
2009-04-13 21:48     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-13 21:57       ` Trond Myklebust
2009-04-13 22:24         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-15 23:27           ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-16  9:10             ` David Howells [this message]
2009-04-16 14:33               ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-22 13:37                 ` [PATCH] Document that wake_up(), complete() and co. imply a full memory barrier David Howells
2009-04-22 13:51                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-22 14:39                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-22 14:56                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-22 15:07                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-22 15:12                     ` David Howells
2009-04-22 15:19                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-22 16:23                       ` David Howells
2009-04-22 17:57                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-23 16:32                           ` [PATCH] It may not be assumed that wake_up(), finish_wait() and co. imply a " David Howells
2009-04-23 16:55                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-24 11:46                               ` David Howells
2009-04-24 15:08                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-24 17:08                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-24 17:43                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-24 17:48                                   ` David Howells
2009-04-24 18:06                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-28 10:18                                       ` David Howells
2009-04-28 13:00                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-24 17:28                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-24 17:53                                   ` David Howells
2009-04-24 18:30                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-23 17:07                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-23 20:35                               ` David Howells
2009-04-23 21:12                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-23 21:24                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-23 16:36                           ` [PATCH] Document that wake_up(), complete() and co. imply a full " Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-23 20:37                             ` David Howells
2009-04-23 16:00             ` [PATCH] slow_work_thread() should do the exclusive wait David Howells
2009-04-23 16:18               ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-13 21:35 ` David Howells
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2009-06-11 12:12 David Howells

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