From: "Svetoslav Slavtchev" <svetljo@gmx.de>
To: "lkml " <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: kernel@mandrakesoft.com, nplanel@mandrakesoft.com, tmb@mandrake.org
Subject: Re: New dev model (was [PATCH] delete devfs)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:17:51 +0200 (MEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <14610.1090502271@www50.gmx.net> (raw)
once again, sorry for this way of replying,
could you keep me CC'd as i'm not subscribed to lkml
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On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 05:19, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 02:55:39AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Changes that remove functionally like Greg's patch are hopefully
> > > > still 2.7 stuff - 2.6 is a stable kernel series and smooth upgrades
> > > > inside a stable kernel series are a must for many users.
> > >
> > > I don't necessarily agree that such changes in the userspace interface
> > > should be tied to the kernel version number, really. That's a three
or
> > > four year warning period, which is unreasonably long. Six to twelve
months
> > > should be long enough for udev-based replacements to stabilise and
> > > propagate out into distributions.
> >
> > Users have had the 6-12 month warning about devfs for a while now :)
>
> No, they had a three year warning. "It'll be gone in 2.8".
>
> > Ok, if people think that would really change anything, I'll wait a year.
> > I'm patient :)
>
> Delete 100 lines per week ;)
That could be done by sending in smaller patches that remove devfs calls
from drivers. If nothing in the kernel is using devfs, then there is no
reason to keep it around anymore...
Just a thought.
josh
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please don't do it /*at least not in the following two months :-)*/
what does this buy us ?
once again about the upcoming Mandrake 10.1,
we already have readded devfs support to isdn,
should we start tracking bk-head for such patches
that remove devfs support from drivers
and revert them ?
should we stay with 2.6.7 (or eventually 2.6.8)?
there is really no time to integarate/test udev
as replacement of devfs for the next release.
best,
svetljo
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2004-07-22 13:17 Svetoslav Slavtchev [this message]
2004-08-10 20:39 ` [Kernel] Re: New dev model Thierry Vignaud
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2004-07-22 7:45 New dev model (was [PATCH] delete devfs) Svetoslav Slavtchev
2004-07-22 10:40 ` Han Boetes
2004-07-21 22:31 [PATCH] delete devfs Brian Gerst
2004-07-21 23:11 ` New dev model (was [PATCH] delete devfs) Jonathan Corbet
2004-07-21 23:52 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-22 9:55 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-22 7:04 ` Greg KH
2004-07-22 10:19 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-22 12:55 ` Josh Boyer
2004-07-22 11:32 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2004-07-22 19:12 ` Greg KH
2004-07-22 19:33 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-22 22:28 ` Paul Jackson
2004-07-22 23:25 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-23 2:22 ` Tim Wright
2004-07-23 6:31 ` Ville Herva
2004-07-23 21:04 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-07-23 21:08 ` Ville Herva
2004-07-25 11:59 ` Jan Knutar
2004-07-25 18:53 ` Jesper Juhl
2004-07-23 8:16 ` szonyi calin
2004-07-23 12:21 ` Jonathan Corbet
2004-07-23 19:59 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-24 14:24 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-07-23 14:54 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-07-23 15:50 ` szonyi calin
2004-07-27 22:18 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-07-28 21:25 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2004-08-02 18:48 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-08-03 22:07 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2004-07-24 16:21 ` Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
2004-07-27 22:12 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-07-28 7:24 ` Paul Jackson
2004-07-22 23:01 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-22 20:18 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-22 20:28 ` Kevin Fox
2004-07-23 20:09 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-22 21:01 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-07-23 0:39 ` Jason Cooper
2004-07-23 20:57 ` Timothy Miller
2004-07-25 13:30 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-26 1:38 ` Ben Hoskings
2004-07-26 2:12 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-07-28 6:25 ` Ben Hoskings
2004-07-28 21:23 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2004-08-04 21:53 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-07-28 21:22 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2004-07-29 12:25 ` Adrian Bunk
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