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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
Cc: libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	carlos <carlos@redhat.com>,
	peter maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	richard earnshaw <richard.earnshaw@arm.com>
Subject: Re: rseq/arm32: choosing rseq code signature
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 13:51:52 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1469455003.811.1555005112414.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190411164219.GE29081@fuggles.cambridge.arm.com>

----- On Apr 11, 2019, at 12:42 PM, Will Deacon will.deacon@arm.com wrote:

> Hi Mathieu,
> 
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 04:29:19PM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>> ----- On Apr 9, 2019, at 3:32 PM, Mathieu Desnoyers
>> mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com wrote:
>> > We are about to include the code signature required prior to restartable
>> > sequences abort handlers into glibc, which will make this ABI choice final.
>> > We need architecture maintainer input on that signature value.
>> > 
>> > That code signature is placed before each abort handler, so the kernel can
>> > validate that it is indeed jumping to an abort handler (and not some
>> > arbitrary attacker-chosen code). The signature is never executed.
>> > 
>> > The current discussion thread on the glibc mailing list leads us towards
>> > using a trap with uncommon immediate operand, which simplifies integration
>> > with disassemblers, emulators, makes it easier to debug if the control
>> > flow gets redirected there by mistake, and is nicer for some architecture's
>> > speculative execution.
>> > 
>> > We can have different signatures for each sub-architecture, as long as they
>> > don't have to co-exist within the same process. We can special-case with
>> > #ifdef for each sub-architecture and endianness if need be. If the architecture
>> > has instruction set extensions that can co-exist with the architecture
>> > instruction set within the same process (e.g. thumb for arm), we need to take
>> > into account to which instruction the chosen signature value would map (and
>> > possibly decide if we need to extend rseq to support many signatures).
>> > 
>> > Here is an example of rseq signature definition template:
>> > 
>> > /*
>> > * TODO: document trap instruction objdump output on each sub-architecture
>> > * instruction sets, as well as instruction set extensions.
>> > */
>> > #define RSEQ_SIG 0x########
>> > 
>> > Ideally we'd need a patch on top of the Linux kernel
>> > tools/testing/selftests/rseq/rseq-arm.h file that updates
>> > the signature value, so I can then pick it up for the glibc
>> > patchset.
>> 
>> Would the following diff work for you ? If so, can I get your
>> acked-by ?
> 
> I had a quick chat with Richard and Peter (CC'd), since they're much more
> familiar with the A32 instruction set than I am and also have a better view
> of what might already be in use.
> 
> Peter suggests that anything of the form 0xe7fxdefx should trap in both A32
> and T32, although it does assemble to UDF; B <imm11> in T16. I'm not sure we
> should get too obsessed with trying to encode a signature that universally
> decodes to a trap.

That's a nice trick.

> 
> Whatever you choose, it would be worth checking that it doesn't clash with
> other allocations such as software breakpoints in GDB.

GDB seems to have [1] :

#define ARM_LE_BREAKPOINT {0xFE,0xDE,0xFF,0xE7}
#define ARM_BE_BREAKPOINT {0xE7,0xFF,0xDE,0xFE}
#define THUMB_LE_BREAKPOINT {0xbe,0xbe}
#define THUMB_BE_BREAKPOINT {0xbe,0xbe}

None of which match the value you hint at.

So I could pick "0xe7f5def3", which would map to the following comment:

/*
 * RSEQ_SIG uses the udf A32 instruction with an uncommon immediate operand
 * value 0x5de3. This traps if user-space reaches this instruction by mistake,
 * and the uncommon operand ensures the kernel does not move the instruction
 * pointer to attacker-controlled code on rseq abort.
 *
 * The instruction pattern in the A32 instruction set is:
 *
 * e7f5def3    udf    #24035    ; 0x5de3
 *
 * This translates to the following instruction pattern in the T16 instruction
 * set:
 *
 * little endian:
 * def3        udf    #243      ; 0xf3
 * e7f5        b.n    <7f5>
 *
 * big endian:
 * e7f5        b.n    <7f5>
 * def3        udf    #243      ; 0xf3
 */
#define RSEQ_SIG        0xe7f5def3

Thoughts ?

Thanks!

Mathieu

[1] https://github.com/bminor/binutils-gdb/blob/master/gdb/arm-tdep.c#L7705-L7742

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-11 17:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-09 19:32 rseq/arm32: choosing rseq code signature Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-04-10 20:29 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-04-11 16:42   ` Will Deacon
2019-04-11 17:51     ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2019-04-11 19:55       ` Peter Maydell
2019-04-15 13:11         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-04-15 13:30           ` Peter Maydell
2019-04-15 13:37             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-04-16 13:39               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-04-17 10:37                 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-04-17 14:43                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-04-17 15:30                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-04-18 16:18                       ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-04-11 12:24 ` Florian Weimer
2019-04-15 13:22   ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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