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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nicholas Piggin <nicholas.piggin@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Fix a race between rwsem and the scheduler
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 07:28:18 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1472592498.2388.40.camel@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160830183416.GV10138@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Tue, 2016-08-30 at 20:34 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
> I'm not actually sure it does. There is the comment from 8643cda549ca4
> which explain the program order guarantees.
> 
> But I'm not sure who or what would simply a full smp_mb() when you call
> schedule() -- I mean, its true on x86, but that's 'trivial'.

It's always been a requirement that if you actually context switch a
full mb() is implied (though that isn't the case if you don't actually
switch, ie, you are back to RUNNING before you even hit schedule).

On powerpc we have a sync deep in _switch to achieve that.

This is necessary so that a process who wakes up on a different CPU sees
all of its own load/stores.

> > I mean, I thought that the LOAD/STORE's done by some task can't
> > be re-ordered with LOAD/STORE's done by another task which was
> > running on the same CPU. Wrong?
> 
> If so, I'm not sure how :/
> 
> So smp_mb__before_spinlock() stops stores from @prev, and the ACQUIRE
> from spin_lock(&rq->lock) stops both loads/stores from @next, but afaict
> nothing stops the loads from @prev seeing stores from @next.
> 
> Also not sure this matters though, if they're threads in the same
> process its a data race already and nobody cares. If they're not threads
> in the same process, they're separated by address space and can't 'see'
> each other anyway.

The architecture switch_to() has to do the right thing.

Cheers,
Ben.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-30 21:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-30  8:49 [RFC][PATCH] Fix a race between rwsem and the scheduler Balbir Singh
2016-08-30  9:13 ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-08-30 12:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-30 13:04   ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-08-30 14:13     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-30 16:57       ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-08-30 18:34         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-30 21:28           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2016-08-31  7:18             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-31 10:56               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-08-31 13:31             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-31 21:47               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-09-01  6:49                 ` Balbir Singh
2016-09-01  6:57                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-01 14:17                   ` Boqun Feng
2016-09-01 15:33                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-30 21:25     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-08-31  7:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-31 10:55         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-08-31  3:41   ` Balbir Singh
2016-08-31  7:28     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-31 10:17       ` Balbir Singh
2016-08-31 10:57       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-09-01  1:48       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2016-09-01 12:16         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2016-08-30 12:58 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-08-31  3:25   ` Balbir Singh

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