From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Nicholas Piggin <nicholas.piggin@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Fix a race between rwsem and the scheduler
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 20:55:44 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1472640944.2388.82.camel@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160831072041.GA10138@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Wed, 2016-08-31 at 09:20 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 07:25:01AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 2016-08-30 at 15:04 +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Confused... how this connects to UNLOCK+LOCK on rq->lock? A LOAD can
> > > leak into the critical section.
> > >
> > > But context switch should imply mb() we can rely on?
> >
> > Between setting of ->on_rq and returning to the task so it can
> > change its state back to [UN]INTERRUPTIBLE, there will be at least one
> > write barrier (spin unlock of the rq),
>
> spin-unlock is _not_ a write barrier, its a RELEASE barrier, and is not
> sufficient for this.
Ah yes well it's an lwsync so it's a wmb for us :-) .
> > possibly even a full barrier
> > (context switch). The write barrier is enough so I didn't dig to make
> > sure we always context switch in the scenario we're looking at but I
> > think we do.
>
> There is enough, you just need to pair the RELEASE with an ACQUIRE to
> get a full load-store barrier.
Right so I *think* there will be at least the release of the rq_lock by
the IPI followed by schedule itself taking and releasing it again, but
I can't vouch for it. As I said, I didn't dig deeper on that side of
things as for us a spin_unlock is a write barrier and for the write
side that concerns me here it's sufficient ;-) It's the read side that
has a problem.
That said you may want to investigate more to make sure there is no way
out of schedule where that spin_unlock is the only thing between
setting on_rq and coming out (which leads to setting the task state).
I suspect there will be at least one more re-aquisition & release of
the rq lock but I may be wrong.
Cheers,
Ben.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-08-31 11:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-08-30 8:49 [RFC][PATCH] Fix a race between rwsem and the scheduler Balbir Singh
2016-08-30 9:13 ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-08-30 12:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-30 13:04 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-08-30 14:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-30 16:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-08-30 18:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-30 21:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-08-31 7:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-31 10:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-08-31 13:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-31 21:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-09-01 6:49 ` Balbir Singh
2016-09-01 6:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-01 14:17 ` Boqun Feng
2016-09-01 15:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-30 21:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-08-31 7:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-31 10:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2016-08-31 3:41 ` Balbir Singh
2016-08-31 7:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-31 10:17 ` Balbir Singh
2016-08-31 10:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-09-01 1:48 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2016-09-01 12:16 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2016-08-30 12:58 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-08-31 3:25 ` Balbir Singh
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=1472640944.2388.82.camel@kernel.crashing.org \
--to=benh@kernel.crashing.org \
--cc=bsingharora@gmail.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=nicholas.piggin@gmail.com \
--cc=oleg@redhat.com \
--cc=peterz@infradead.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).