From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753940AbcIMUca (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Sep 2016 16:32:30 -0400 Received: from mail-pf0-f178.google.com ([209.85.192.178]:36348 "EHLO mail-pf0-f178.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750951AbcIMUc1 (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Sep 2016 16:32:27 -0400 Message-ID: <1473798742.14269.4.camel@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] net: ip, diag -- Add diag interface for raw sockets From: Greg To: "Rustad, Mark D" Cc: Cyrill Gorcunov , Linux Kernel Network Developers , LKML , David Miller , "dsa@cumulusnetworks.com" , "eric.dumazet@gmail.com" , "kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru" , "jmorris@namei.org" , "yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org" , "kaber@trash.net" , "avagin@openvz.org" , "stephen@networkplumber.org" Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 13:32:22 -0700 In-Reply-To: <69DF2AA5-F813-476F-BB10-B3CB35656512@intel.com> References: <20160913171950.GC32643@uranus> <1473791620.14269.2.camel@gmail.com> <69DF2AA5-F813-476F-BB10-B3CB35656512@intel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.11 (3.12.11-15.el7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 2016-09-13 at 20:18 +0000, Rustad, Mark D wrote: > Greg wrote: > > > Someday Linux will be a modern OS that just includes IPV6 and forces a > > config option to NOT have it. > > > > That'll be great. All the IS_ENABLED_(CONFIG_IPV6) scattered everywhere > > is nuts. > > > > > > Better wait until everyone at least *has* IPv6! I have yet to have IPv6 > deployed on any of my employer's networks or get IPv6 service from any ISP > at my home. When I was at Apple in the 90's I was told that Apple needed > IPv6 by next year or "we were dead". Well Apple nearly died, but IPv6 had > nothing to do with that! And I still haven't experienced an IPv6 > deployment! Yeah, I have run it a bit point-to-point to resolve technical > issues, but that isn't a "deployment" and not very interesting. > > As much as we would like things to move faster, much of the world just > doesn't. Witness the e1000 discussion today for example. Hardware doesn't > vanish overnight, and I know that my ISP has a network full of CPE that > doesn't do IPv6, so I'm not expecting their status to change any time soon. Well that's why we can have a configuration to turn it off... But yeah. /pipedream - Greg > > It would be great though. > > > -- > Mark Rustad, Networking Division, Intel Corporation