From: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: linux.git: printk() problem
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 13:33:41 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1477254821.3561.8.camel@perches.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwOBR6z55r2abAT_TuYTHfyuc8f75B2+Z7+Lhr9fzSZRA@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, 2016-10-23 at 12:32 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, 2016-10-23 at 11:11 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > >
> > > And those two per se sound fairly easy to handle ("KERN_CONT means
> > > append to the line buffer, otherwise flush the line buffer and move to
> > > the record buffer").
> > >
> > > But what complicates things more is then the "console output", which
> > > has two issues:
> > >
> > > - it is done outside the locking regime for the line buffer and the
> > > record buffer.
> > >
> > > - it is done on _partial_ line buffers.
> >
> >
> > EOL KERN_<LEVEL> and thread interleaving still exists.
>
>
> Note that the thread interleaving is still trivial: it's easily done
> at the point where we decide "can we append to the line buffer or
> not". That's pretty simple. Just flush the record when the thread
> changes.
>
> So the interleaving will never go away, it's very fundamental - unless
> we make the line buffer just be a per-thread thing. And yes, that
> would be the cleanest solution, but it's also an extra buffer for each
> thread, so realistically it's just not going to happen.
I doubt there are cases where more than a few of
these interleaving threads are simultaneous.
Perhaps it could be a pool of active thread
continuation buffers.
> End result: I'm not worried about the interleaving. It will cause ugly
> output, but we've always had that, and the solution to it is "if you
> absolutely don't want interleaving, then don't try to print partial
> lines!".
> The classic "don't do that then" response, in other world.
Yup, best solution.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-10-23 20:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-10-12 13:30 linux.git: printk() problem Tetsuo Handa
2016-10-12 14:35 ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-12 16:08 ` Joe Perches
2016-10-13 6:26 ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-13 9:29 ` Joe Perches
2016-10-13 10:04 ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-13 10:20 ` Joe Perches
2016-10-13 11:06 ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-12 15:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-12 16:16 ` Joe Perches
2016-10-12 16:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-12 18:50 ` [PATCH] acpi_os_vprintf: Use printk_get_level() to avoid unnecessary KERN_CONT Joe Perches
2016-10-13 21:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-23 9:22 ` linux.git: printk() problem Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-10-23 18:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-23 19:06 ` Joe Perches
2016-10-23 19:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-23 19:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-24 11:15 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-10-24 14:08 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-24 14:23 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-24 17:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-24 17:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-25 1:55 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-25 2:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-25 2:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-25 4:06 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-25 4:13 ` Joe Perches
2016-10-25 4:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-25 4:44 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-25 14:44 ` Petr Mladek
2016-11-09 15:47 ` Petr Mladek
2016-10-25 2:24 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-23 20:33 ` Joe Perches [this message]
2016-10-23 21:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-25 14:42 ` Steven Rostedt
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