From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Nicolai Stange <nicstange@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Paul E.McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
gregkh <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: deadlock in synchronize_srcu() in debugfs?
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 11:44:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1490953494.6288.5.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871stdyg0u.fsf@gmail.com> (sfid-20170331_110332_008161_46B67339)
On Fri, 2017-03-31 at 11:03 +0200, Nicolai Stange wrote:
> > 2)
> > There's a complete deadlock situation if this happens:
> >
> > CPU1 CPU2
> >
> > debugfs_file_read(file="foo") mutex_lock(&M);
> > srcu_read_lock(&debugfs_srcu); debugfs_remove(file="
> > bar")
> > mutex_lock(&M); synchronize_srcu(&de
> > bugfs_srcu)
> >
> > This is intrinsically unrecoverable.
>
> Let's address this in a second step.
I suspect that it's actually better to address both in the same step,
but whatever :)
> > That seems like a strange argument to me - something has to exist
> > for a process to be able to look up the file, and currently the
> > proxy also has to exist?
>
> No, the proxies are created at file _open_ time and installed at the
> struct file.
>
> Rationale: there are potentially many debugfs files with only few of
> them opened at a time and a proxy, i.e. a struct file_operations, is
> quite large.
Ok, that makes sense. But that's not really a show-stopper, is it?
You can either have a proxy or not have it at remove time, and if you
don't have one then you can remove safely, right? And if you do have a
proxy, then you have to write_lock() it.
Lookup of the proxy itself can still be protected by (S)RCU, but you
can't go into the debugfs file callbacks while you hold (S)RCU, so that
you can safely determine whether or not a proxy exists.
I'm handwaving though - there are problems here with freeing the proxy
again when you close a file. Perhaps something like
* first, remove the pointer and wait for a grace period
* write_lock() it to make sure nobody is still inside it
* delete it now
works.
> I'll work out a solution this weekend and send some RFC patches then.
>
Thanks!
johannes
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-03-31 9:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-23 14:54 deadlock in synchronize_srcu() in debugfs? Johannes Berg
2017-03-23 15:29 ` Johannes Berg
2017-03-24 8:56 ` Johannes Berg
2017-03-24 9:24 ` Johannes Berg
2017-03-24 17:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-03-24 18:51 ` Johannes Berg
2017-03-24 19:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-03-24 20:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-03-27 11:18 ` Johannes Berg
2017-03-23 15:36 ` Nicolai Stange
2017-03-23 15:47 ` Johannes Berg
2017-03-27 11:36 ` Johannes Berg
2017-03-30 7:32 ` Nicolai Stange
2017-03-30 7:55 ` Johannes Berg
2017-03-30 10:27 ` Nicolai Stange
2017-03-30 11:11 ` Johannes Berg
2017-03-31 9:03 ` Nicolai Stange
2017-03-31 9:44 ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2017-04-16 9:51 ` [RFC PATCH 0/9] debugfs: per-file removal protection Nicolai Stange
2017-04-16 9:51 ` [RFC PATCH 1/9] debugfs: add support for more elaborate ->d_fsdata Nicolai Stange
2017-04-16 9:51 ` [RFC PATCH 2/9] debugfs: implement per-file removal protection Nicolai Stange
2017-04-18 2:23 ` [lkp-robot] [debugfs] f3e7155d08: BUG:unable_to_handle_kernel kernel test robot
2017-04-23 18:37 ` Nicolai Stange
2017-04-24 6:36 ` Ye Xiaolong
2017-04-16 9:51 ` [RFC PATCH 3/9] debugfs: debugfs_real_fops(): drop __must_hold sparse annotation Nicolai Stange
2017-04-16 9:51 ` [RFC PATCH 4/9] debugfs: convert to debugfs_file_get() and -put() Nicolai Stange
2017-04-16 9:51 ` [RFC PATCH 5/9] IB/hfi1: " Nicolai Stange
2017-04-16 9:51 ` [RFC PATCH 6/9] debugfs: purge obsolete SRCU based removal protection Nicolai Stange
2017-04-16 9:51 ` [RFC PATCH 7/9] debugfs: call debugfs_real_fops() only after debugfs_file_get() Nicolai Stange
2017-04-16 9:51 ` [RFC PATCH 8/9] debugfs: defer debugfs_fsdata allocation to first usage Nicolai Stange
2017-04-18 9:36 ` Johannes Berg
2017-05-02 20:05 ` Nicolai Stange
2017-05-03 5:43 ` Johannes Berg
2017-04-16 9:51 ` [RFC PATCH 9/9] debugfs: free debugfs_fsdata instances Nicolai Stange
2017-04-17 16:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-04-18 9:39 ` Johannes Berg
2017-04-18 13:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-04-18 13:40 ` Johannes Berg
2017-04-18 15:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-04-18 15:20 ` Johannes Berg
2017-04-18 17:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-03-23 15:37 ` deadlock in synchronize_srcu() in debugfs? Paul E. McKenney
2017-03-23 15:46 ` Johannes Berg
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