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From: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@mellanox.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 7/9] housekeeping: Use own boot option, independant from nohz
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 17:15:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1502810123.1349.71.camel@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170815130712.GA16627@lerouge>

On Tue, 2017-08-15 at 15:07 +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 08:29:46PM +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > On Mon, 2017-08-14 at 13:34 -0400, Luiz Capitulino wrote:
> > > On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 19:01:09 +0200
> > > 
> > > > What is the source of the load balancing inducing such latency when a single
> > > > task is affine to a CPU? If this is idle load balancing, it is now affine to
> > > > housekeepers. If this is task wakeup then it's suprising because select_task_rq()
> > > > is optimized toward single CPU affinity.
> > > 
> > > I guess it was idle load balancing, but I don't remember because this
> > > was a few years ago. I think this might be reproducible without using
> > > isolcpus=. I'll give it a try shortly and let you know.
> > 
> > idle_balance() can swamp other noise by a couple orders of magnitude,
> 
> Ah I missed that one. Is there any way we can also lower the overhead there?

Why?  HPC proggies won't benefit from a partially filled pothole any
more that a ~zero ground clearance formula 1 car would.  The pothole
intolerant either isolate, killing (most) LB, or they meet a wall.

	-Mike

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-15 15:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-21 13:21 [RFC PATCH 0/9] Introduce housekeeping subsystem Frederic Weisbecker
2017-07-21 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 1/9] housekeeping: Move housekeeping related code to its own file Frederic Weisbecker
2017-07-21 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 2/9] watchdog: Use housekeeping_cpumask() instead of ad-hoc version Frederic Weisbecker
2017-07-21 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 3/9] housekeeping: Provide a dynamic off-case to housekeeping_any_cpu() Frederic Weisbecker
2017-07-21 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 4/9] housekeeping: Make housekeeping cpumask private Frederic Weisbecker
2017-07-21 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 5/9] housekeeping: Use its own static key Frederic Weisbecker
2017-07-21 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 6/9] housekeeping: Rename is_housekeeping_cpu to housekeeping_cpu Frederic Weisbecker
2017-07-21 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 7/9] housekeeping: Use own boot option, independant from nohz Frederic Weisbecker
2017-08-11 19:09   ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-08-12 14:10     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-08-13 15:13       ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-08-14 17:01         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-08-14 17:34           ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-08-14 18:29             ` Mike Galbraith
2017-08-15 13:07               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-08-15 15:15                 ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2017-08-15 15:30                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-15 15:52                     ` Christopher Lameter
2017-08-15 15:57                       ` Mike Galbraith
2017-08-15 16:26                         ` Christopher Lameter
2017-08-16 18:00                           ` Mike Galbraith
2017-08-15 15:53                     ` Mike Galbraith
2017-07-21 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 8/9] housekeeping: Move it under own config, independant from NO_HZ Frederic Weisbecker
2017-07-21 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 9/9] workqueue: Affine unbound workqueues to housekeeping cpumask Frederic Weisbecker
2017-07-21 19:48 ` [RFC PATCH 0/9] Introduce housekeeping subsystem Chris Metcalf
2017-08-10 12:54   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-08-10 13:57     ` Chris Metcalf
2017-08-11  6:36       ` Mike Galbraith
2017-08-11 15:01         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-08-11 19:22           ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-08-11 15:08         ` Chris Metcalf
2017-08-11 15:35           ` Christopher Lameter
2017-08-11 15:50             ` Chris Metcalf

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