From: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
To: "Tobin C. Harding" <me@tobin.cc>
Cc: kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
"Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Tycho Andersen <tycho@docker.com>,
"Roberts, William C" <william.c.roberts@intel.com>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
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Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>, Ian Campbell <ijc@hellion.org.uk>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <wilal.deacon@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
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Dave Weinstein <olorin@google.com>,
Daniel Micay <danielmicay@gmail.com>,
Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V8 1/2] printk: remove tabular output for NULL pointer
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 07:47:19 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1509029239.10651.51.camel@perches.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171026093728.GJ12341@eros>
On Thu, 2017-10-26 at 20:37 +1100, Tobin C. Harding wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 01:05:39AM -0700, Joe Perches wrote:
> > On Thu, 2017-10-26 at 17:27 +1100, Tobin C. Harding wrote:
> > > Hi Joe,
> > >
> > > thanks for your review.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 09:57:23PM -0700, Joe Perches wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2017-10-26 at 13:53 +1100, Tobin C. Harding wrote:
> > > > > Currently pointer() checks for a NULL pointer argument and then if so
> > > > > attempts to print "(null)" with _some_ standard width. This width cannot
> > > > > correctly be ascertained here because many of the printk specifiers
> > > > > print pointers of varying widths.
> > > >
> > > > I believe this is not a good change.
> > > > Only pointers without a <foo> extension call pointer()
> > >
> > > Sorry, I don't understand what you mean here. All the %p<foo> specifier code is
> > > handled by pointer()?
> >
> > Sorry, I was imprecise/wrong.
> >
> > None of the %p<foo> extensions except %pK and %p<invalid_foo>
> > actually use this bit of the pointer() call.
>
> if (!ptr && *fmt != 'K') {
> /*
> * Print (null) with the same width as a pointer so it makes
> * tabular output look nice.
> */
> if (spec.field_width == -1)
> spec.field_width = default_width;
> return string(buf, end, "(null)", spec);
> }
>
> Is there something I'm missing here? This code reads like its all %p<foo>
> (including %p and %p<invalid_foo>) except %pK that hit this block when
> a NULL pointer is passed in.
The idea for aligning is described in commit 5e0579812834a
$ git log --stat -p -1 --format=email 5e0579812834a
>From 5e0579812834ab7fa072db4a15ebdff68d62e2e7 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:22:50 -0700
Subject: [PATCH] vsprintf.c: use default pointer field size for "(null)"
strings
It might be nicer to align the output.
For instance, ACPI messages sometimes have "(null)" pointers.
$ dmesg | grep "(null)" -A 1 -B 1
[ 0.198733] ACPI: Dynamic OEM Table Load:
[ 0.198745] ACPI: SSDT (null) 00239 (v02 PmRef Cpu0Ist 00003000 INTL 20051117)
[ 0.199294] ACPI: SSDT 7f596e10 001C7 (v02 PmRef Cpu0Cst 00003001 INTL 20051117)
[ 0.200708] ACPI: Dynamic OEM Table Load:
[ 0.200721] ACPI: SSDT (null) 001C7 (v02 PmRef Cpu0Cst 00003001 INTL 20051117)
[ 0.201950] ACPI: SSDT 7f597f10 000D0 (v02 PmRef Cpu1Ist 00003000 INTL 20051117)
[ 0.203386] ACPI: Dynamic OEM Table Load:
[ 0.203398] ACPI: SSDT (null) 000D0 (v02 PmRef Cpu1Ist 00003000 INTL 20051117)
[ 0.203871] ACPI: SSDT 7f595f10 00083 (v02 PmRef Cpu1Cst 00003000 INTL 20051117)
[ 0.205301] ACPI: Dynamic OEM Table Load:
[ 0.205315] ACPI: SSDT (null) 00083 (v02 PmRef Cpu1Cst 00003000 INTL 20051117)
> > All of the other valid %p<foo> extension uses do not end up
> > at this block being executed so it's effectively only regular
> > pointers being output by number()
Because passing NULL to any of the %p<foo> extensions
excluding %pK is probably a defect.
> > > > > Remove the attempt to print NULL pointers with a correct width.
> > > >
> > > > the correct width for a %p is the default width.
> > >
> > > It is the default width if we are printing addresses. Once we hash 64
> > > bit address to a 32 bit identifier then we don't have a default width.
> >
> > Perhaps that 32 bit identifier should use leading 0's for
> > the default width.
>
> That's a fair comment.
>
> > aside:
> >
> > Why hash 64 bits to 32?
> > Why shouldn't the hash width be 64 bits on 64 bit systems?
>
> Quoted from Linus in an earlier thread discussing this change
>
> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 11:37:22 -0700 Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> In fact, I'd prefer mapping the pointer to a 32-bit value, even on
> 64-bit architectures. When people use these things for debugging and
> for identifying which device node or socket or whatever they are
> tracking, we're generally talking a (small) handful of different
> devices or whatever.
I wonder about this and userland programs and API breakage.
I'd expect there could be cases of userland parsers that
expect a certain width for pointer fields.
$ git grep -E "\bseq_.*%p\W" | wc -l
112
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-10-26 14:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-26 2:53 [PATCH V8 0/2] printk: hash addresses printed with %p Tobin C. Harding
2017-10-26 2:53 ` [PATCH V8 1/2] printk: remove tabular output for NULL pointer Tobin C. Harding
2017-10-26 4:57 ` Joe Perches
2017-10-26 6:27 ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-10-26 8:05 ` Joe Perches
2017-10-26 9:37 ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-10-26 14:47 ` Joe Perches [this message]
2017-10-26 23:57 ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-10-27 0:11 ` Joe Perches
2017-10-26 2:53 ` [PATCH V8 2/2] printk: hash addresses printed with %p Tobin C. Harding
2017-10-26 2:58 ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-10-30 21:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-30 22:41 ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-10-31 0:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-31 2:00 ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-10-26 3:11 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-10-27 13:33 ` [PATCH V8 0/2] " Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-10-31 23:35 ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-02 8:23 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-11-02 10:14 ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-02 13:43 ` Roberts, William C
2017-11-02 16:04 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-10-30 22:03 ` Kees Cook
2017-10-30 22:33 ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-10-31 2:08 ` Joe Perches
2017-10-31 23:16 ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-10-31 23:33 ` Joe Perches
2017-11-03 5:13 ` Vinod Koul
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