From: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
To: Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>,
Julia Lawall <julia.lawall@lip6.fr>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org,
Andy Whitcroft <apw@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] checkpatch: Add a warning for log messages that don't end in a new line
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 16:15:21 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1511828121.32426.83.camel@perches.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <993ca1c1-6d27-2ee1-94ed-41e8249755bd@deltatee.com>
On Mon, 2017-11-27 at 12:58 -0700, Logan Gunthorpe wrote:
>
> On 27/11/17 11:57 AM, Joe Perches wrote:
> > It may or not be correct.
>
> It's absolutely not correct in that it either requires that a subsequent
> KERN_CONT/pr_cont or a '\n' at the end and it has neither.
The warning described is simply not correct.
> > Without inter-function call code flow analysis,
> > it's not possible to be correct.
>
> But how many cases actually have the pr_cont/KERN_cont called in
> different functions? This appears to be exceedingly rare to me.
Probably more than 50.
> > If you can get the false positive & false negative
> > rate higher, I'll listen.
> The only two classes of false positives that you've pointed out or that
> I'm aware of:
>
> 1) The case where call did not either end in a '\n' or have a
> KERN_CONT/pr_cont in a subsequent call.
or a bare printk.
> I've been arguing (to deaf ears)
wrong here too.
> that a warning is appropriate here and this is not a false positive
> because it absolutely is incorrect one way or the other.
The checkpatch message itself has to be correct.
Classifying the defect properly is a requirement.
> Coccinnelle
> will also suffer from this issue because it can no better decide whether
> the developer intended for the next call to be a continuation or for a
> '\n' to end the line.
Well, coccinelle could do a better job than a
line parser like checkpatch.
Line parsing is what makes the type of defect difficult
for a stupid parser, and checkpatch is one of those, to
be correct enough with a low enough false positive rate
to be useful.
Please be aware I have already written just about exactly
what you are trying to do more than once and discarded
the work because the defect report rate was just too high.
> 2) Cases where the pr_cont/KERN_CONT is not in sufficient context for
> the script to detect. These are impossible to fix (and it's likely also
> impossible for Coccinelle to be 100% accurate here). However, I'd expect
> these to be *very* rare and I'm only actually aware of one case where
> this has actually happened (lib/locking-selftest.c:1189) and (mostly by
> luck) my v2 patch does not flag this where Coccinelle did. Not to
> mention that continuation usage is discouraged in new code so this
> should be even rarer on the majority of what checkpatch is used for.
>
> (also 3. would be the %pV case, but I've removed those in what could be
> a v3 of the patch -- I'd also be happy to address other false positives
> classes if I could find them)
> False negatives are much harder to quantify or improve. But given that I
> detect nearly 6000 errors
No, you don't detect errors, you detect matches.
If you look at your results a bit harder, you'll find many
false positives.
> And yet, you have not pointed out any false positives that my patch
> gives which Coccinelle does/would not. It really feels to me like your
> biases are guiding your decision here and you aren't really looking at
> the results.
I know the kernel source code style very well.
You simply haven't looked very hard at your results.
> Another thought I've had is that the dev_ functions don't have any form
> of continuation.
Untrue
> So we could potentially limit checkpatch to looking for
> those to avoid the issues with continuations. It's not high coverage but
> at least a lot of the driver patches would be checked with no chance of
> false positives. I think there would be value in doing that.
For instance:
drivers/mfd/ipaq-micro.c: dev_err(micro->dev,
drivers/mfd/ipaq-micro.c- "unknown msg %d [%d] ", id, len);
drivers/mfd/ipaq-micro.c- for (i = 0; i < len; ++i)
drivers/mfd/ipaq-micro.c- pr_cont("0x%02x ", data[i]);
drivers/mfd/ipaq-micro.c- pr_cont("\n");
$ git grep -A5 -P -w "\bdev_(warn|alert|crit|err|info|notice)" | \
grep -B5 -P -w "printk|pr_cont"
will find some, but not all of these types of uses.
$ grep -A5 -rP --include=*.[ch] '\bdev_(warn|alert|crit|err|info|notice).*\"[^"]+(?<!n)"' * | \
grep -B5 -w -P "(printk|pr_cont)"
will find fewer false positives, but miss some
multiline dev_<level> calls too.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-28 0:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-26 5:40 [PATCH v2] checkpatch: Add a warning for log messages that don't end in a new line Logan Gunthorpe
2017-11-26 5:51 ` Julia Lawall
2017-11-26 6:01 ` Joe Perches
2017-11-26 17:38 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2017-11-26 22:29 ` Joe Perches
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.20.1711262334370.2111@hadrien>
2017-11-27 1:12 ` Joe Perches
2017-11-27 6:08 ` Julia Lawall
2017-11-27 9:25 ` Joe Perches
2017-11-27 9:32 ` Julia Lawall
2017-11-27 9:42 ` Joe Perches
2017-11-27 17:07 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2017-11-27 17:26 ` Joe Perches
2017-11-27 17:33 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2017-11-27 17:41 ` Joe Perches
2017-11-27 17:42 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2017-11-27 4:00 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2017-11-27 6:11 ` Julia Lawall
2017-11-27 6:27 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2017-11-27 6:34 ` Julia Lawall
2017-11-27 6:40 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2017-11-27 8:28 ` Joe Perches
2017-11-27 8:52 ` Julia Lawall
2017-11-27 9:06 ` Joe Perches
2017-11-27 16:40 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2017-11-27 17:20 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2017-11-27 17:28 ` Joe Perches
2017-11-27 17:35 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2017-11-27 17:42 ` Joe Perches
2017-11-27 17:44 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2017-11-27 18:57 ` Joe Perches
2017-11-27 19:58 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2017-11-27 20:49 ` Julia Lawall
2017-11-27 22:56 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2017-11-28 0:15 ` Joe Perches [this message]
2017-11-26 16:55 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2017-11-26 17:09 ` Julia Lawall
2017-11-26 17:47 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2017-11-26 18:17 ` Julia Lawall
2017-11-26 18:33 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2017-11-27 1:35 ` Joe Perches
2017-11-27 6:40 ` Julia Lawall
2017-11-27 6:42 ` Julia Lawall
2017-11-27 6:53 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2017-11-27 6:57 ` Julia Lawall
2017-11-27 9:03 ` Joe Perches
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